sup bros, I took your advice and I will be starting out with dave tates 9 week program. on the first day it gives a max effort squat day, however i dont see any squats. There are good mornings glute ham raises reverse hypers pull down hypers, and straight leg raises. what are good mornings i think i know but i am not sure, can you give me a pic....i know i am pathetic, I need to know what jm presses are onthe 4th week for max effort bench day...what are chest supported rows, on squat day....what are reverse hypers.......if anyone could i would like to see pics at least on the good mornings so i can get started, i think reverse hypers is where one is on a crunch board facing down and coming up using primarily lower back.... i sound really dumb i know i have read all of waht i have wrote, beleive it or not I have been to the arnold and i attend numerous events, but as you say powerlifting is a whole other ball game...please help me join th darkside.............................