HELP: naturally low test; high prolactin. HRT?

[Anakin]

I thought about starting my first steroid cycle because I have always thought that given my level of dedication, I should have a lot more muscle than I do. So I got my testosterone level tested (I wanted to know where I was standing before doing anything that could fuck up my body) and it ended up being LOW-normal: barely over 300 ng/dL, and I'm only 20 years old! Good thing I didn't do steroids cause I would've blamed my fucked up hormone levels to it when actually I was born like this. I also have high prolactin, 25 ng/mL (normal range 2.5-17), so this might be the culprit. What do you guys think about this? I'll start going to an endocrinologist, and my own research tells me that something like Cabergoline (dostinex), which is like bromo, could help.
I still want to do my first cycle eventually, going for 20mg dbol a day and 400mg primobolan per week, as suggested by Nelson Montana. I'm afraid though that if I crash and my system shuts down, it will really go DOWN since I already started so low. On the other hand, I just want to get to the normal 800ng/dL level and I think I'll see great gains. Any comments, anyone familiar with these issues? I don't want to be dependent on HRT non-stop, like Biggerthanu (I think it was him) who is using 100mg test/ week. I want to raise endogenous levels AND do a cycle once in a while. Also, LH and FSH are pretty low but in the normal range.
So instead of doing any steroids straight off, I'm considering stuff like clomid to raise LH, and Cabergoline to lower prolactin, and see if that does it.
BTW, my libido has always been kinda low but it never fails me when I have to perform, unless I've had massive amounts of alcohol. Any comments will be GREATLY appreciated.

 

[Anakin]

Also, I'll be traveling to South America (not Mexico) in a short while. I'll be able to buy anything I want easily from drugstores, since they don't really enforce the "prescription only" requirements there, so I should be able to get Primobolan. I've heard that it's hard to find real primo nowadays but if I buy it from a drugstore it should be good.
If I try to bring back some of that stuff in to the US when I fly back, will showing a prescription from a South American doctor save me from the DEA if they search through my stuff? Of course I would only bring back the quantity I need for personal use.

Please comment on the first stuff I posted, cause I'm really curious as to how effective/safe clomid would be in raising testosterone to "normal" levels, i.e around 600-800 (even though normal for my body is 300).

 

[Stillgoing]

Clomid will not permanently raise your testosterone levels. It helps when test levels are suppressed due to previous exo influences (gear). If you have never done a cycle and your test is 300 at 20yrs old, only exo test is going to raise your levels up. To me, its all a question of how well your body is functioning at its current levels. If you have symptoms of low-test (difficulty putting on muscle, easy fat accumulation, low energy, low libido, poor self-image, etc.) its a question of how you want to live your life. If you can live with it, great. If not, or, you simply don't want to live with it, then you can do something about it (HRT). You can always try supplementing with test and see if it makes you feel better. If so, you have something to consider. Also, you could try a cycle and then come off and see if you can recover sufficiently. If so, you could keep on like that, if not, you probably either need to be on or be off entirely.

 

[Anakin]

doctors against steroids

Thanks Stillgoing, your comment really made me think. It's all about wether I want to live like this or not. I know I can, but then again, I could be living better with the help of HRT. I'm just afraid that once you go on HRT it's for life, because it will shut down the natural production.
Well, I talked to an endocrinologist today and he said: "There's no way I'm giving you testosterone, it will enlarge your prostate and you're too young."
I'm pissed off because I want to find a doctor who doesn't have an immediate bias against steroids. This guy said no pretty much right away.

 

[Stillgoing]

Re: doctors against steroids

Thanks Stillgoing, your comment really made me think. It's all about wether I want to live like this or not. I know I can, but then again, I could be living better with the help of HRT. I'm just afraid that once you go on HRT it's for life, because it will shut down the natural production.
Well, I talked to an endocrinologist today and he said: "There's no way I'm giving you testosterone, it will enlarge your prostate and you're too young."
I'm pissed off because I want to find a doctor who doesn't have an immediate bias against steroids. This guy said no pretty much right away.

Many will say this. Test supplementation for males, especially relatively young males, is not something they teach you to do in med school. Its benefits and a real understanding of the risks is only now beginning to be known. I would suggest doing research on your own, then, if you think you might be interested, find a doc that will atleast approach it with an open mind. See below link for a starting point on doctors in your area:

http://www.lef.org/doctors/directoryofdoctors01.html

Also, see my post in this thread for the link to comprehensive info on HRT:

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=232550

Hope this helps....

 

[Anakin]

DEA at airport? Short cycle?

This board is awesome, it's the first time I ever posted and I feel like people out here are actually trying to help each other. Thanks again Stillgoing, your previous thread on HRT was very very useful. It's weird how I have lower test than you, 324 vs 400, and yet I don't really have serious symptoms. Makes me think that absolute levels are only a part of it, since they have to be taken in comparison to the levels of other hormones and what your body is used to. Anyway, I'm going to do a lot of research into it and make a decision in a month or two. Back home (somewhere in South America) I'll be able to get steroids legally and cheap.
If the DEA searches through my bags at the airport and they find AAS, will showing a prescription save my ass?
If and when I decide to go onto HRT or do a cycle, I'll post my info so that you can all get something out of it as well.
By the way, what do people here think of a short 4 week cycle of dbol 20mg ed and primobolan 400mg/week (as suggested by Nelson Montana) to gain 6-12 lbs of muscle I can keep? Will it really shut me down? My test level is less than 50% of what is "normal" so I should see dramatic gains right?

 

[Stillgoing]

Re: DEA at airport? Short cycle?

This board is awesome, it's the first time I ever posted and I feel like people out here are actually trying to help each other. Thanks again Stillgoing, your previous thread on HRT was very very useful. It's weird how I have lower test than you, 324 vs 400, and yet I don't really have serious symptoms. Makes me think that absolute levels are only a part of it, since they have to be taken in comparison to the levels of other hormones and what your body is used to. Anyway, I'm going to do a lot of research into it and make a decision in a month or two. Back home (somewhere in South America) I'll be able to get steroids legally and cheap.
If the DEA searches through my bags at the airport and they find AAS, will showing a prescription save my ass?
If and when I decide to go onto HRT or do a cycle, I'll post my info so that you can all get something out of it as well.
By the way, what do people here think of a short 4 week cycle of dbol 20mg ed and primobolan 400mg/week (as suggested by Nelson Montana) to gain 6-12 lbs of muscle I can keep? Will it really shut me down? My test level is less than 50% of what is "normal" so I should see dramatic gains right?

If you have a prescription you should be ok. The cycle you mentioned I would not recommend. Primo is a long acting ester and you will only begin to see benefits by the time you go off. If you are doing such a short cycle you should use all short acting esters. So go with test suspension, test prop or winny and dbol.

I agree on your comment regarding test levels being different for everyone. Some will function fine on 400, some won't. Because you have "low test" does not necessarily mean you will gain better, but, it may mean you will not recover as well and keeping gains will be more difficult.

 

[Nelson Montana]

My primo/d-bol recomendation is for a safe, productive cycle. It is NOT meant to treat a medical condition or to be used as HRT.

I'd recommend trying to get your T up and Prolatin down naturally. Avena Sativa, SAM-e, etc. More sleep, more eggs, more sun. Get your levels checked again. If you need medication, get it from your doctor, not a source. Good luck bro.