Help me work on this 3rd cycle.

[aj13]

Hey boys,

Im going into winter soon and am looking to run a pretty strong, but safe bulker. I don't however want to take more juice than I need to given that Im a little fella (in between 165 - 170 pounds.

I do alot of boxing as well so Im pretty lean at the moment.

STATS: 24,
weight:165-170lbs
weight training: 5 years (while boxing), BodyBuilding: 2 years
Cycle history: 2 cycles (both test cyp @ 400 mg + SARMS S4 to bridge cycle one and OSTA SARMS during PCY for cycle two.)

I finished running my last cycle about 2 months ago which as mentioned above was test cyp 400/week for 10 weeks. I did a proper pct (what my budget could afford) Nolva 20/20/20/20, HCGenerate, Unleashed, Post cycle and i expect Im coming close to recovering (ill get bloods done soon.

For the next month or two Im gonna run supps only from need2 and while saving for the next cycle.

Right now the OSTA SARMS is working great - Im lifting more than when I was on cycle (slowly) and im very lean. BF would be about 12% & lots of vascularity around the arms.

I have a small frame but have filled out the muscles.

Anyway cutting to the chase.

I was thinking for a big lean (well lean as possible while still bulking ;-) bulker, i was tossing up between running:

Option 1: sus 500/week + deca 200/week
Option 2: sus 750/week + deca 400/week
Option 3: sus 750/week + deca 200/week.

My main goal is to bulk up and make my way towards 185lbs while staying lean once the water weight drops off - ill probably run osta sarms after again.

Now I dont want to run more than neccessary for a person of my weight and training experience. This is not just for financial reasons but also for the sake of
my health and limiting side effects.

My diet is good all year round and I train 4/5 days a week (when im not either boxing or BJJ) anywho - routine is very consistent.

thoughts and opinions?

Cheers boys, peace

 

[aj13]

bumpedy - thoughts and opinions? common guys!

 

[EZ_E]

AJ;

A comment on what you said about not taking more than you need; I'm a little bigger than you (only a little) and on last cycle ran 750mg's of test/week for the 1st time which was a lot more than I've ever run in the past....the results @ the higher dose were about the same @ a lower dose...

I'm never really bulking, I'm always looking for lean, defined gains which may make the higher dose that you're looking to run a better choice for you....

Also I have about 13 years on you...

Just a few points to consider as you make your decision...

~EZ

 

[aj13]

AJ;

A comment on what you said about not taking more than you need; I'm a little bigger than you (only a little) and on last cycle ran 750mg's of test/week for the 1st time which was a lot more than I've ever run in the past....the results @ the higher dose were about the same @ a lower dose...

I'm never really bulking, I'm always looking for lean, defined gains which may make the higher dose that you're looking to run a better choice for you....

Also I have about 13 years on you...

Just a few points to consider as you make your decision...

~EZ

Sorry EZ, Im having difficulty figuring out which direction your pointing me in,

first you said that the higher dose of 750mg didnt do much more than what your lower dosages ever did - which would be a reason against,

However then you say: "the defined gains which may make the higher dose a better choice"..

which did you think overall.

Thatbloke - Cheers, Im thinking of going with what you said - especially because the more test I take the more sides generally - Acne/bloat... If i could keep it to 500 i guess that would be preferable.

 

[veneto82]

at your weight you will get decent gains with only 500mg test, no need for 750 im my opinion.
btw how much osta did you run and for how long? was it better than s4 in your opinion. I have run s4 before.

 

[aj13]

at your weight you will get decent gains with only 500mg test, no need for 750 im my opinion.
btw how much osta did you run and for how long? was it better than s4 in your opinion. I have run s4 before.

Well when I ran S4 it was straight after a not so lean bulker - i.e. eating everything in sight. At the moment Im running OSTA and just about finished - I've been getting comments from everyone at how much bigger Im suddenly looking and ripped.

At first I thought s4 was better, but I think this is only because it was quicker to act, after a month of OSTA I must say I absolutely love this shit. I'm lifting heavier than when I was on (as in it never dropped and there has been a slow and steady increase) and vascularity has increased with fat loss as well. OSTA get's my vote - I wish I had enough money to buy another one.

HAVING said that I think its more noticeable on a smaller frame like mine, if you get a monster like Thatbloke I could imagine the OSTA not being strong enough to a big guy - definately have to up the dose alot.

Anyway Ill be ordering my next one soon - loving it atm

 

[veneto82]

were you taking 25mg a day on osta? yea i think im going to order some in as well, liked the s4. So glad that stuff comes through our customs!!!

 

[aj13]

were you taking 25mg a day on osta? yea i think im going to order some in as well, liked the s4. So glad that stuff comes through our customs!!!

I was taking 12.5mg a day.

It doesnt come through if you get busted mate! Im about to finish a law degree and I had big letter from Australian customs and border protection saying they will charge me with importing an anabolic substance and specifically OSTA-SARMS MK4866 written on the letter! Iv had 3 come in succesfully and now Im too scared to order it again!

 

[veneto82]

I was taking 12.5mg a day.

It doesnt come through if you get busted mate! Im about to finish a law degree and I had big letter from Australian customs and border protection saying they will charge me with importing an anabolic substance and specifically OSTA-SARMS MK4866 written on the letter! Iv had 3 come in succesfully and now Im too scared to order it again!

its not an anabolic substance though... did they confiscate the sarms?

 

[aj13]

its not an anabolic substance though... did they confiscate the sarms?

Well its effects are anabolic so I think thats all they need. So based on it being used for anabolic purposes and creating anabolic effects - how is that not an anabolic substance?

Yeah they did confiscate it - but SARMS were good enough to send a second one through to me free of charge which got through... strange how they knew exactly what substance it was... normally the bottles NEVER have any labels on it.. but when i got done they said exactly: OSTA-SARMS MK2866

furthermore I had already read the legislation on the customs website stating the list of banned substances and sarms was not on it. When I called customs up to dispute the issue the lady just informed me that the list was not exhaustive and there can still be plenty more