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Help me out please, I'm driving myself crazy..

kevin7

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I've been trying to decide on a cycle for myself to get about 10-12 lbs. of good, quality muscle with very minimal hairloss.. not lookng to get huge. I've done hours and hours of research on here for a few weeks and this is what I think I've decided on.. what do you guys think?

eq only, 400mg for 10 weeks with:
5% spirolactone topical
2% nizoral shampoo
Xandrox
Clomid eod and especially post cycle.. nolva just in case

I'm gonna hold off using propecia since it has very little effect on the eq.

I should be able to get 10-12 lbs, right?
Also, should the hairloss prevention products I mentioned work well with he eq?

Please, any help would be much appreciated.
PS.. I decided against deca b/c of fear of deca dick and gyno (didn't wanna use winny with the deca)
 
I think that is a solid cycle that will get you close to the results you are after if you have a good diet. No need for Clomid through out and you will not need Nolva with Eq at that dose. Wait and start Clomid 3 weeks after your last shot. If you have the$$ then you could throw Anavar into that cycle as well

M18
 
You won't gain 10-12 pounds off eq at 400 mgs. Maybe 5 pounds.
I would drop the xandrox and get some propecia or proscar instead, and you wont need the nolva.

Most of those products will do little or nothing for your hair on eq since eq doesn't convert to dht very easily.
 
man this is so confusing

then what would you suggest to prevent the hairloss?? Man, I do okay with the ladies now, but I'd make an ugly bald guy :fro:

Stew has stated on numerous occasions that finasteride has basically insignificant effects on eq..
 
Throw in 75mg Fina EOD and 250 Test (I'd go with Enanthate) every week and you should have your solid 10-15 pounds. That's not too heavy of a cycle.

Give us your stats. It might help.
 
thanks for all of your help

I'm 5'11, 185, 12% bf.. never used eq before. the only thing is if I throw in the fina and test, I can ruin the rug up top and I can't use finasteride or xanrox with fina and I'd need 'em for the test.. remember, just looking for 10-12 solid lbs. w/o losing the ole rug..
 
You're about my size except my bf is around 9% right now. I have a problem with my hair when I do Winny (and damn I love Winny). But I haven't had a hair problem with Fina yet. This is the first time I try Fina however and did a very light test cycle. If you're worried about the Fina, maybe just go with the EQ and Test. Test is not expensive and soooo good for any base cycle.
 
Enigmaxxx7 said:
Throw in 75mg Fina EOD and 250 Test (I'd go with Enanthate) every week and you should have your solid 10-15 pounds. That's not too heavy of a cycle.

Give us your stats. It might help.

Oh yeah, i like that cycle, but he didn't want to do deca, so I doubt he'd really consider using fina. Test is a good idea since it gives you solid gains and the hair-loss can be prevented using finasteride.

Personally, I'd stack the test and eq , and use propecia and nizoral shampoo and rogaine for the hair. Keep the doses in the moderate area and hair loss shouldn't be a problem unless you're really really prone to balding, and if that's the case, you might as well give up on using steroids.
 
as far as my MPB

I'm 24 and have a slight receding hairline only on the right side!:mad: All the men in my family have a receded hairline in the temporal areas with no crown balding..

I started a cycle a year and a half ago with test susp (i think 50mg eod) and deca 300mg.. at week 3 I started some sus250 at ( I think 500mg) and my hair on that right side temporal area started thinning bad..

about 4 yrs ago when I had basically no steroid knowlede, I did sus250 250mg a week and up to 500mg a week for 6 weeks with really no hairloss at all, so I'm not sure what got me last time.. maybe the test susp.... ?????????
 
Hey bro, I feel for you! The only suggestion I can give you is to just shave your head bald. Trust me the chicks dig it. I shaved mine by choice, gear doesnt affect my hair at all.:fro: I hope it all works out for you.
 
yeah but..

the bald look isn't good for everyone... :)
man, I've always done pretty good with the ladies with a combo of descent looks, personality, confidence, etc.. however, some people just have the "pretty boy" face that isn' affected by no hair. I'm not that fortunate.. I think my looks would go way down with no hair.. :fro:

But the question still remains.. what do I used to combat a receding hairline from eq?? I know what to use with test and I know what not to use with Fina and deca.. thanks guys, you all rock..
 
Bro, I'd go with the Xandrox. I've been using it with good results for the past 4 months. Proscar is good also, but I feel more comfortable using a topical. See how you do with EQ and xandrox, then if all is well you may be able to add in a little test in the future. I'm almost 24 and have had some MPB probs in the past 2 years during cycles, but now my hair is fine because of xandrox, minoxidil 5%, and Nizoral.
 
Re: thanks to all of you..

kevin7 said:
So, does eq convert to DHT or what?

...yes


But 5 alpha reductase has a low affinity for bolderone. This translates to very little Equipose being converted to DHT. However, bolderone does have a direct androgenic effect on the hair folicle. This effect is small and comparable to testosterone taken with finasteride.

Finasteride is fine to take with EQ; no negative interactions.


-Stew
 
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