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Gabe8912

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Hello I am considering doing my first cycle. I am 19 (20 in a couples weeks), I'm 5'9 appx 180 and have about 9% BF. I have been going back and forth on what I want to use
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, At first I thought Dbol alone because I kind of don't want to do needles but then I thought I really don't want water retention and I know oral only are retarded. Then I thought primo only because it can give lean gains to some people and I know it will have a greater effect on me because it's my first cycle but I really need my libido up (for the girlfriend who needs to hop on the russian stallion constantly) and I don't want to shut down my test. I have decided I am willing to do needles as long as I don't get irritation from them and don't have to pin a lot. What do you guys think would be the best low dose cycle for LEAN muscle gains. Me thinking Primo only would give you an idea of the results I want to get. Don't care about a bunch of mass but would like to add on some and get and stay cut. Thank you!!!

P.S. sorry it is so long!
 
I am glad that you are trying to keep my best interests at heart but I meet all the requirements in your article and have been lifting heavily since I was 16. When I was that age I was 145 and had 14-15% bf. You have read that, that has changed quite drastically. My diet is perfect and I understand I am not 21 which is why I am asking for low doses so I can reach the next plateau in my workouts. I would appreciate your help instead of making me search else where for the information that you could just as easily tell me.
-Gabe
 
I was 21 when I did my first cycle. still early. I wish I would of waited longer but I had it in me to do it regardless of what people said. I don't condone it at your age, no one here will, but if you r gonna do it, research, research research. knowledge is power haha. theres no simple answer out on google that will tell you what to take.
 
I know which is why it is so confusing. I know that I need to base what I should take on what goals I am trying to achieve and I am just hoping for some feedback
 
prolly shouldn't do anything till ur older and ready and more knowledgeable. but everyone will recommend test only first cycles. test prop more frequent injections and will see gains much faster as compared with test cypionate where it requires once weekly injections for 12 weeks or so. typically test prop and shorter acting esters are used for cutting purposes but I suppose u can gain any sort of weight you want if you eat for it. And typically test cyp is a good mass builder. Theres alot of people who hate dbol only cycles. good reason too but i still know people that do that. Dianabol will prolly gain you 30 lbs in a month. sounds good till you lose 25 lbs once you stop. i'm just regurgitating info that is widely available because i'm bored and feel u need semi decent response cuz i got a feeling ur gonna do it regardless, guys will be guys.
 
Ya I've read up on the d-bol only cycles and the results are quite the opposite of what I want. I want lean muscle mass not a bunch of water retention and bloating. what would a low but effecient dose of test prop look like? what kind of PCT cycle would I run after that.
 
I am by far the expert here...but test prop requires everyday or every other day injections. Alot of users of prop say it has painful injections. I personally never cycled with prop, but test-e and cyp I loved. Most of the weight lost on dbol is water weight.. I read somewhere you didn't want to do many injections because ur fear of needles. anavar is a pill, will add strength, and a lil muscle but not much comnpared with others. Winstrol can be taken orally but not as effective as intramuscular injections. Theres alot of different compounds out there. I won't lay out a plan for pct, recommended dosages so forth. In good conscience, I don't think I can tell you what to do word for word cuz some people may take it too heart and do what I say exactly. SO i'd rather have u do research and find whats good for you, its out there bro.
 
U're just too young.

Juicing at this point is NOT going to be beneficial in the long term. The reasons are physiological and so not subject to debate.

Remember that this lifestyle is about longterm commitment more than anything. Yes: There will be a point in time where aas can push the barrier of ur natural potential. That time will be when said potential is exhausted which is physiologically impossible to do at age 19.

If u juice now u'll find it impossible to grow without juice from now on. U'll risk damaging ur natural test production permanently which might be the end of ur libido. No more russian stallion for the gf eh? Besides juice will close off ur growing plates prematurely which might actually STUNT ur natural growth rather than promoting it.

Juice is an effective tool but it should be used with caution and only when called for. I do not think this is the time for u to do it yet.

I respect ur commitment and could only wish I had been as disciplined as you when i was in ur age. Then when i'd hit the juice years later the result woulda been outta the roof.
 
To young grass hopper. But more than likely you will do it with our without our advise....If you dont do injections...just dont do it..period... dbol only cycles will grow you some tits..make you lactate...and make ur dick limp...dont say we didnt warn you...lol
 
When people say you're too young, they're not saying it to be parental or cautious. It just isn;t a good idea for someone to start to early. More complications and in the long run, you'll have lesser gains from future use.

In the meantime, there are some supps which will give sick results at your age. Have you tried a serious run of UNLEASHED and BIG BLAST? Dude, at your age, it'll be like juicin. If you just HAVE to satisfy the curiosity, then try a low dose of Beastdrol.
 
Nelson Montana said:
When people say you're too young, they're not saying it to be parental or cautious. It just isn;t a good idea for someone to start to early. More complications and in the long run, you'll have lesser gains from future use.

In the meantime, there are some supps which will give sick results at your age. Have you tried a serious run of UNLEASHED and BIG BLAST? Dude, at your age, it'll be like juicin. If you just HAVE to satisfy the curiosity, then try a low dose of Beastdrol.
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Great advice there ^^

The reality is that you just don't need to use gear at your age! Your natty test levels are going to be high at your age. W/ proper diet you can make some great gains.

**Note: W/ out a proper diet you simply wont grow no matter what you take or do!!

Physiques are built in the kitchen.... The lifting part is really just a small part of it...

Ask politly and I am sure some bros on here will set you up w/ a great diet to get you dialed in.. Diet + unleashed will get you amazing results.

Oh, and i for one find your honesty refreshing!


Blessings,
 
Nelson Montana said:
Have you tried a serious run of UNLEASHED and BIG BLAST? Dude, at your age, it'll be like juicin. If you just HAVE to satisfy the curiosity, then try a low dose of Beastdrol.
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Well it would make sense to make a cycle of Unleashes/BIG BLAST/(and) Beastdrol wouldn't it. I think that would be quite an effective low dose cycle would it not?
 
can we stop giving steroid advice to people under 21 ?
 
joe d said:
can we stop giving steroid advice to people under 21 ?
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Joe, w/ all due respect should we not offer any advice to those under 21?

i thought the advice given here was fairly balanced...This fella asked a question and most answered that he should wait and offered some alternatives.

While I understand your concerns to simply ignore these types of questions is counter-productive to some degree, no?

If we ignore these kids they'll just go and do it anways getting advice from some bloke in the gym, get hurt or worse and then it's all bad for all of us..

Blessings,
 
Gabe8912 said:
Well it would make sense to make a cycle of Unleashes/BIG BLAST/(and) Beastdrol wouldn't it. I think that would be quite an effective low dose cycle would it not?
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Gabe,

Get the unleashed and Big Blast... Cycle that as per instructions...

*note: Get your diet dialed in or nothing will work!
 
Ezekiel said:
Joe, w/ all due respect should we not offer any advice to those under 21?

i thought the advice given here was fairly balanced...This fella asked a question and most answered that he should wait and offered some alternatives.

While I understand your concerns to simply ignore these types of questions is counter-productive to some degree, no?

If we ignore these kids they'll just go and do it anways getting advice from some bloke in the gym, get hurt or worse and then it's all bad for all of us..

Blessings,
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i was refering to the steroid cycle advise that was given that involves testosterone. we are not allowed to do that. all the diet and maybe some of the sup. suggestions look good to me.
 
joe d said:
i was refering to the steroid cycle advise that was given that involves testosterone. we are not allowed to do that. all the diet and maybe some of the sup. suggestions look good to me.
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sorry Joe, I missed where someone actually talked about that.. My Bad!

I reread where that advice was given and you're absolutly correct.. We shouldn't offer that type of advice. I'm not too sure i would take that blokes advice anyways lol :p

if I only knew @ 21 what I know now in regards too diet, rest, water etc, I am convinced I'd be way better off then I am now... Not too mention bigger ;)

W/ respect..

Ez
 
unleashed and big blast would be good. beastdrol is no good. it also is a steroid. steroids will cause permanent damage to your body.
 
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