Help me design the ultimate test product

[Juice Authority]

I want pick up 30mls of Test blend product. My favorite test has always been Sust for the long acting nature of it. When one ester fakes out the next one kicks in. If you could play with the ingredients of Sust and come up with your own custom blend, what would it be? Here's what I was thinking:

Test deconate: 150mg/ml
Test Phenylprop: 100mg/ml
Test Prop: 100mg/ml

Total = 350mg/ml

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Prop= 100mg
Enath= 200mg

300mg per ml total.


I know a bro that made the following suspension using a FinaFarm Universal kit.

Test Enath 100mg
TProp 50mg
NPP 50mg
EQ 50mg
Fina 20mg
Masterone 20mg

290mg per 1ml in a 100ml kit.

 

[Tryn2]

I think UG labs have a hard enough time trying to get the single ester tests to weigh out correctly. Maybe they should concentrate on that first....

 

[Juice Authority]

Prop= 100mg
Enath= 200mg

300mg per ml total.


I know a bro that made the following suspension using a FinaFarm Universal kit.

Test Enath 100mg
TProp 50mg
NPP 50mg
EQ 50mg
Fina 20mg
Masterone 20mg

290mg per 1ml in a 100ml kit.

Interesting combo. I would imagine with those particular compounds you would have to do ed or eod injects.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Interesting combo. I would imagine with those particular compounds you would have to do ed or eod injects.

EOD is the way to go.

 

[reb8]

I just finished up making the following
50mg base
75mg prop
125 cyp
125 enanthate

MH

 

[Big Rick Rock]

I just finished up making the following
50mg base
75mg prop
125 cyp
125 enanthate

MH

The shorter ester are hard enough to get into suspension, did you have any problems with the base(without-ester) Test?

 

[landser]

250mg test cyp per ml. You dont need the fancy shit.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

What bother to mix esters? This has never made a great deal of sence to me from a bodybuilding perspective. Ifyou want something long lasting use cypionate. If you want to frontload start the cycle on prop for the first 2 weeks.

BRR- I have a love/hate relationship with homebrew test prop... masterone is just as bad. Test prop cost pennies to make... but its horrible about dropping out of suspension.

 

[Dial_tone]

I have never understood BB'ers fascination with Sustanon personally. If you were undergoing testosterone replacement therapy for example, you would possibly find Sustanon a much more comfortable option than testosterone enanthate. You would need to visit the doctor less frequently for an injection, and blood levels should be more steadily maintained between treatments. That was it's original intention, however Sustanon is not used for HRT in the U.S. But for the bodybuilder who is injecting 4 ampules of Sustanon per week, there is no advantage over other testosterone products. In fact, the high price tag for Sustanon usually makes it a very poor buy in the face of cheaper testosterone enanthate/cypionate. One Sust ampule per week was considered aggressive usage in the 80's, although that was combined with other products.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

BRR- I have a love/hate relationship with homebrew test prop... masterone is just as bad. Test prop cost pennies to make... but its horrible about dropping out of suspension.

Just keep the Tprop at about 50mg per ML. Yeah I know 50mg per ML seems like too little nowadays... fuck it! its cheap and at that concentration there is a little more volume for spot injection.

If you really think making 50mg concentration gear is a waste, then mix the Tprop with other esters that are easy to suspend like TEnath.

 

[juve]

When one ester fakes out the next one kicks in.

That's not the way it works - the only difference is the attenuation of pharmacological effects/effective half-life - it doesn't kick in one after the other - pharmacokinetics starts shortly after administration. Not to mention if you've ever seen blood serum conc of test after sust administration you'd see it's oscillatory/fluctuating pattern of decay - nothing stable in there.

 

[xonic2xonic2]

Yeah I'm no expert but I always thought of these ester blends as a waste of time and money, like gimmikry.... start and end cycles with test prop or suspension, take enanthate through the middle..

 

[galaxy]

Just take everything under the sun and youll be covered.

 

[AAP]

250mg test cyp per ml. You dont need the fancy shit.

 

[Juice Authority]

That's not the way it works - the only difference is the attenuation of pharmacological effects/effective half-life - it doesn't kick in one after the other - pharmacokinetics starts shortly after administration. Not to mention if you've ever seen blood serum conc of test after sust administration you'd see it's oscillatory/fluctuating pattern of decay - nothing stable in there.

Bro, each ester that makes up Sust 250 has a different half-life (as 30 mg propionate, 60 mg isocaproate, 60 mg as phenylpropionate, 100 mg decanoate) and Sust 250 contains 1 short, 1 long and 2 medium length esters that are all delivered over time.

The half lives assigned to each ester were:
TP- 3 days
TPP- 3 days
isoC - 7 days
dec- 10 days

I'll be the first to retract that statement if in fact I was wrong but you really didn't provide much contrary evidence that disproves what I said.

 

[Dial_tone]

Once you build up a single ester test to optimal levels I see no advantage to Sust where you have 4 esters to worry about.