Help me design my extended cycle

[uglyass]

OK, Will you guys help me design the best way to extend my cycle please.

Im currently on:
weeks 1-4 dbol@35mg ED
weeks 1-10 sustanon250 @500mgs per week
weeks4-10 anavar @50mg ED

Ancillary drugs are taken care of and so are post cycle drugs.

Heres what I was thinking of doing

weeks 11-18 deca 400mg per week
weeks 11-18 EQ 600mg per week

Do you think I'd need HCG for this cycle and would my natural test production be screwed up?

I'm on week 6 just now of my first proposed cycle and Im up about 20lbs give or take 5 it varies.

I've used deca and EQ in there cause I dont want to go baldy! lol

Thank you

UglyASS


All this from someone who's first post was "whats a good all oral cycle!" lol You boys are a bad influence!

 

[MUSTANG_18]

I would bridge with Primo at 200mg/week for 6-8 weeks then hit another cycle. From what I have read and happend through my expirience, gains seem to slow down dramatically after 8-10 weeks anyways

M18

 

[IronFist]

You could also add fina or primo in there. You will definately need clomid post cycle.

 

[uglyass]

I would bridge with Primo at 200mg/week for 6-8 weeks then hit another cycle. From what I have read and happend through my expirience, gains seem to slow down dramatically after 8-10 weeks anyways

M18

I know the gains will slow down a lot, I thought switching the type of gear would help though.

I will definetely be having a break after this cycle though, he says! lol

Ironfist - yeah ill be using clomid post cycle mate

Keep 'em comming guys, thanks M18 and Ironfist!

UglyASS

 

[serge]

if you are going to stay on, why not switch some gear and do a cutting cycle? than way you will be making progress and not just fucking up you hpta further for no reason

 

[uglyass]

if you are going to stay on, why not switch some gear and do a cutting cycle? than way you will be making progress and not just fucking up you hpta further for no reason

Hi Serge, I thought I was switching gear, I'm not doing a cutting cycle coz I aint as big as I want to be plus Im pretty cut anyway, I just dont seem to put fat on.

Do you think this would screw my hpta up badly?

I WILL be having a break after this though, definetely.

Thanks

UglyASS

 

[IronFist]

Ok Ugly, after reading your goals if I were in your shoes, I would do this:
750mg. enanthate or 100mg. prop evd weeks 11-18
600mg. EQ weeks 11-18
75mg fina evd weeks 11-18
100mg AD 50 weeks 11-14

This is a total switch in gear and should provide good results. There is no problem with taking the ad50 since you have been off orals for 6 weeks. Alot of the pro's that I know do similar cycle. They will pick 3 or 4 compounds and completely switch every 5 or 6 weeks. They do this so that they don't have to come off a cycle.

 

[dawookie]

Arent receptors saturated the same no matter what u r on? why would changing make a difference besides the general results that each as provides??

 

[uglyass]

Ok Ugly, after reading your goals if I were in your shoes, I would do this:
750mg. enanthate or 100mg. prop evd weeks 11-18
600mg. EQ weeks 11-18
75mg fina evd weeks 11-18
100mg AD 50 weeks 11-14

This is a total switch in gear and should provide good results. There is no problem with taking the ad50 since you have been off orals for 6 weeks. Alot of the pro's that I know do similar cycle. They will pick 3 or 4 compounds and completely switch every 5 or 6 weeks. They do this so that they don't have to come off a cycle.

I thought of doing that with the test but I dont want to be running test for such a long time. Thats why I switched over to deca.

I wont use Anadrol either as Ive heard to many bad experiences from it.

Id like to try to stay away from the androgenic steroids as much as possible for the latter half, although if I do go with what you said Ill be dropping the deca and continuing the use of propecia.
Thanks Ironfist!

Anyone else?

UglyASS

 

[uglyass]

Arent receptors saturated the same no matter what u r on? why would changing make a difference besides the general results that each as provides??

I'm not sure but a lot of people stay on for a lot longer than 18 weeks.

UglyASS

 

[serge]

ok, here is another idea, go off gear for 2 weeks, during 2 weeks do no AS but load up on clomid, after 2 weeks are up start up the cycle. you will not completely restore your hpta but you will give your receptors a break and will start growing again, with this strategy you will be once again making progress.

BTW you wont loose much during the 2 weeks off, i garantee it

 

[uglyass]

ok, here is another idea, go off gear for 2 weeks, during 2 weeks do no AS but load up on clomid, after 2 weeks are up start up the cycle. you will not completely restore your hpta but you will give your receptors a break and will start growing again, with this strategy you will be once again making progress.

BTW you wont loose much during the 2 weeks off, i garantee it

I do have my reasons for wanting to make my cycle longer rather than bridging but that would work fine what you said serge. I think that is what I will do, Ill have as long a break as possible then start again. Thanks bro.

Anyone else got any more comments/ideas?

UglyASS

 

[serge]

any longer then 2 weeks and you will start to loose big time

 

[uglyass]

Serge, thing is I'm on sust just now so I would have to wait 2/3 weeks after my last injection before starting the clomid, then two weeks off, its like a month already. I think I'm gonna have to run it all the way through.

What problems arise from running such a long cycle and can they be overcome?

I realise the gains Ill be making wont be so dramatic but gains are gains Id be happy with 15lbs from the deca EQ if thats possible.

UglyASS

 

[uglyass]

I dont think the dosages Ill be taking are to dramatic either.

 

[serge]

you wont have to wait 3 weeks after your last shot yes, but only 2 weeks off. 1 week after your shot your blood will still be saturated, so its only 2 weeks off gear, and you are right you will not restore you hpta as i have said earlier but clomid during those 2 weeks off will keep the estrogen down. and if you dont give the receptors a break you will not put on another 15lb off of deca and eq

 

[uglyass]

I'm using arimidex just now serge so would that mean I wouldnt have to bother with the clomid if its only to keep estrogen down?

So youre sayin that even after my last shot taking two weeks off would give my receptors time to recover evn although I still have the longer acting test from the sust in me?

I could do that, two weeks wouldnt be a problem.
Thanks for helping me out bro.

UglyASS

 

[anabolic24/7]

UA, I can't really help you on the hpta being affected as far as messing it up for good. I do know that many people including Flex Wheeler have had kids after being on for years. I have had all the kids I want so if mine is gone I'll get a prescription for test, won't that be nice. I am of the group that believes it can't be screwed up permanently.
As to your cycle, I like what Iron Fist has layed out.
you need the test and switching esters is the way to go. Since you are coming off after this I wouldn't do the deca as it is very hard on the hpta recovery.
Two weeks off will give you a mental break and that is about it.

 

[uglyass]

Thanks bro, I may just go with the EQ and a different test and see how that goes.

UglyASS