Help me design a cycle

[AirWolf]

Hey - I've gone through this exercise before, but I'm re-thinking what my first cycle should include and I wanted some suggestions. This time I'll give a little better background on my current physique, my goals, and my requirements.

I'm 26, 6'2, 230, 18%BF - working hard to get to 15% before I start the cycle
I'm pretty athletic and want to stay that way...meaning I'd rather not bulk up too much. I want to concentrate on losing BF and adding a little lean muscle mass. My overall goal is 10-12%BF at a weight of 220-230.

So far I've added a 4 day sprint workout to my routine and have cut carbs big-time. Both seem to have helped out quite a bit.

Oh - and one more thing - Money is an issue - I don't want to break the bank.

Thanks for all the help.

 

[Snarling Force]

Hey - I've gone through this exercise before, but I'm re-thinking what my first cycle should include and I wanted some suggestions. This time I'll give a little better background on my current physique, my goals, and my requirements.

I'm 26, 6'2, 230, 18%BF - working hard to get to 15% before I start the cycle
I'm pretty athletic and want to stay that way...meaning I'd rather not bulk up too much. I want to concentrate on losing BF and adding a little lean muscle mass. My overall goal is 10-12%BF at a weight of 220-230.

So far I've added a 4 day sprint workout to my routine and have cut carbs big-time. Both seem to have helped out quite a bit.

Oh - and one more thing - Money is an issue - I don't want to break the bank.

Thanks for all the help.

I'll share with you my experience for my first cycle since we are almost the same age and height.

I was 27, 6'2" and weighed 200lbs, not sure of BF% when I did my first cycle earlier this year. So for my first cycle, I went with Sust 500 for 10 weeks. So the total for the cycle including PCT was around $300 bucks so not too expensive for a first cycle. It was a great cycle, I learned a lot, and I got extrememly strong. I kept a good bit of my gains. If I had to recommend it, I would. Good luck bro!

 

[Apexx]

Ok, so you're looking to cut bf while saving as much muscle as possible. And you don't want to spend a lot of money.
The most important aspect of this is your diet and cardio, not the steriod.

A 10 week cycle of test enanthate at 500mg/wk will be enough to save muscle mass
without add adding much bloat, plus it's very cheap. Along with your PCT,
it will cost you around $150.......not that I'm recommending that you purchase this, because that would be illegal

 

[tboy72]

to get that hard look that i think your after try winny(you can get it cheap if you know where to look) and test prop. 100 mg's eod
hey apex...you dont think hes gonna bloat at 500mgs of enanth? he would need nolva ar a-dex to have a chance to keep off the bloat imo

 

[jeb0177]

just adjust your diet and do cardio after your workout. imo.

 

[AirWolf]

How does this sound...

Cycle

Test Propionate 100mg every other day (10 weeks)
Winstrol 40mg/ every day (weeks 5-10)
Arimidex 1.5mg daily (weeks 1-10)

PCT
1000u HCG EoD (week 1-3)
Nolva 20mg daily (week 1-6)


Any problems w/ sides common w/ that stack?

 

[Apexx]

to get that hard look that i think your after try winny(you can get it cheap if you know where to look) and test prop. 100 mg's eod
hey apex...you dont think hes gonna bloat at 500mgs of enanth? he would need nolva ar a-dex to have a chance to keep off the bloat imo

He may bloat a little, so nolv might not be a bad idea. But that will go away after the cycle. I was thinking more how he would look as an end result more than how he would look while on. Total cost is an issue for this guy, so a-dex will be too expensive.

If his bf was closer to 10% I would agree with the winny, provided he could find it cheap enough. But he's still gonna have a thick layer of fat covering everything.
Test-e and prop cost about the same, but you don't have to do ed or eod injections with test-e. Which is a good thing for a newbie.

I'm not saying I don't agree with your suggestion of winny/prop for getting that really hard look. Just not for this guy because he's not gonna have that look until he drops the bf.

 

[DIVISION]

Test Propionate 100mg every other day (10 weeks)
Winstrol 40mg/ every day (weeks 5-10)
Arimidex 1.5mg daily (weeks 1-10)

PCT
1000u HCG EoD (week 1-3)
Nolva 20mg daily (week 1-6)


Any problems w/ sides common w/ that stack?

I like the moderate dose of Test......most people go overboard.

Winny = good

Arimidex, be careful as it is hard on the liver......

I agree with your PCT.

Looks like a good steady lean mass cycle......

DIV

 

[imortal]

Arimidex levels way too high can be dangerous as estrogen in vital to a certain degree...1.5 a day will kill est. completely.
0.5 a day is fine.

 

[AirWolf]

Would you guys recommend aromasin instead of the arimidex for cost/liver reasons?

 

[Mr. Black]

Would you guys recommend aromasin instead of the arimidex for cost/liver reasons?

If you can find/afford it...