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Help me create a GH cycle. ONLY EXPERIENCED AND LONG TIME USERS AND TRAINERS PLEASE

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I want to minimize side effects etc and use reasonable dosages for my age. My stats are im 220-250 lbs (off /on season) 6' and only 19 . I will be starting this GH cycle regardless to any flames or advice i get against doing so. I for sure have stoped growing etc, (height wise) and want to do this as safely as posible. What doses would you recomend i will be using 384 IU ( 3 kits) how low of a dosage should i use yet for it to have good efects and pplease list how many days per week / on how many off if any.

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Its hard to say what dose to take if youve never used it before. The sides dont set in extremely fast but they can definatly slow down your training. FOr that reason I simply recommend 2IU ED for a few weeks. If all is good bump the dose by an IU every couple weeks.
 
Thanks for the response my freind. What sides can i expect (swelling of hands feet etc trembling of feet hands) what else . Do you think 19-20 is realy to low for a low dose of GH. Several peopl i train aroudn or with use it at a age of 19-23 and seem fine.
Karma your way.
 
I notice sides mostly in hands at first, they become stiff and later start to get numb easily. This feeling can work its way up the arm and thats about when my feet start to get stiff as well. Ive been on 1IU now for quite a few weeks and been bumping it to 3IU here and there with no sides. However when I jumped right on it at both 4IU and 6IU (two different cycle of it) I got very stiff. The last time I was bound and determined to rough it out, bad plan. I could barely hold a bar and both arms where numb. It took about a month for me to get feeling back in my hands.
 
What about sexual sides/ implications will it make you numb downstairs too? Does Gh increase sex drive for you or how would you say?
 
Definitely start with 1iu per day and get a good feel for that. Go 5 or 6 days per week. Do that until you are completely confident that your body is taking well to it. Then simply bump that up to 2iu per day, again until you feel that dose feels good. If this takes a few weeks, big deal, don't rush it. The people that have had problems with gh (myself included) have invariably been the ones that ramp up too fast or do not ramp up at all but rather start at some high dose. Then they have to drop back down anyway so what's the point. gh absolutely works best when you ramp up slowly to allow your body to adjust accordingly. Only then can you take advantage of what it can do for you. Otherwise you'll shock your body with it and suffer from a carpal tunnel-like side effect. This is no fun and it's a waste because again, you have to stop and start all over. But DO NOT bump up the dose until you are COMPLETELY comfortable with the dose you are currently on. Anyway, that's my experience, I hope it helps.
 
Thanks karma your way but like i asked Zyg what about sexual sides etc? just wondering. Should i be woried about organ growth or is that only at high unreasonable dosages.
 
Hey bro, I have been using G for about 5 months now. I started with 4 ius daily and have kept it there going on a 5on, 2off schedule. Also,I split my dosages up into two shots in the morning and postworkout. When i first began after about a week, I began to swell up and probably was holding about 15 pounds of water from my arms to my feet which increased in width about 2 inches! I actually toughed it out, and after about three weeks, it completely went away and has never been back. Some pros claim that is the initial breaking in period and the G is hydrating your body to an excess. As far as sexual side effects go, well, i sure have not had one instance where i couldnt get it up! In fact, most of the time I feel like a 15 year old in that all i have to do is merely think of the thought of sex and im full wood. Yes, its true. As far as results go, im sitting right now at 5'3'' and 208#. G has made me very thick, but i also use slin with it as well. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask or pm me. Take care and good luck.
 
Forgot to touch on organ growth. Organ growth doesnt occur unless you are taking large dosages of G incorporating this with large amounts of slin as well...at least that is what im hearing from chad nicholls. I only use 4 ius and have never had the growth around the midsection problem. Oh, and to make you feel better, im only 21. If you want to be pro material, we have to start young with this. We need every arsenal we can get!
 
At only 19, I would say to wait and not use it at all. However, I have a feeling that you have already made up your mind. The best advice I can give is to run it for at least 6 months. Thats how I ran my last cycle for my show. Got awesome results with it during bulking and cutting phases. I ran about 5i.u. a day. Just be sure to have plenty of cash around for a 6 month cycle.
 
Polfa/Jelfa said:
Thanks karma your way but like i asked Zyg what about sexual sides etc? just wondering. Should i be woried about organ growth or is that only at high unreasonable dosages.
If you use reasonable doses (ie <6IU daily) i dont feel occasional cycling will result in any organ growth(doesnt mean it wont happen, I just have not heard of it or read anythig about it).

As for sexual sides, nothing there either. It greatly improves skin tone. Sleep much better and wake much more rested. GH plays a very important role in blood sugar levels and I find I go hypo much easier when on GH, i need to eat every 3 hours and definatly not more than 4 or I start shaking badly.

As Latimer said though, at your age I wouldnt waste the money. I didnt mention it at first because it does seem like your mind is made up. GH isnt cheap and it does not give instant gratification that AAS does.
 
No such thing as instant gratification with HGH. Like I said though, longer cycles usually, well almost always do better than a short cycle. I have some friends that have used it for 8 weeks on a regular cycle, and they said all they got from it was a better nights sleep. Definately run it on a longer cycle or dont waste your money. The nice thing about HGH is that it will work great with a bulking cycle or a cutting cycle. Pretty cool stuff huh?
 
hey bro, take this how you may

i tried Gh when i turned 19, i did it with t400, dbols, and various things

i honestly dont think it, at our age, is necessary, for the money, and for the results you get at our age, unless u are looking to gain tons of mass with slin, too, i wouldnt use it, that is my opinion

i could have used it my last mass cycle, instead i just did test and deca, and i felt my results were just as good bro, if u have 3 serono serostim kits, each for at least 4 bills im sure u paid, i honestly feel you can spend your money alot better, u could get a ton more test, and a ton more other goodies

u wanted opinions, so here they are

i was 19, 6 3, and 250, and i tried gh for over 3 months, and then when i was older i did a regular cycle, and i truly feel that for the money there are a lot better options until we get older, i.e. 24 and up

take it as you may, when adding gh to ur stack im sure u get a boner, it sounds sooo cool, wow, im on GH, but honestly, at our age, it isnt worth it, test and other things would be a ton better for the money, just telling you from someone with alot of experience :)
 
There was a recent study published in MD that basically showed just what you guys are saying. It concluded that the use of HGH by people in their late teens and early 20s saw very little cost effective benefit. They stated that the use of testosterone was much more beneficial for bodybuilding purposes at that age.

Basically, you have some good weight and build at your age bro, Take it easy and take your time, you have time for HGH. For now you will see little results from it.
 
gwl9dta4 said:
There was a recent study published in MD that basically showed just what you guys are saying. It concluded that the use of HGH by people in their late teens and early 20s saw very little cost effective benefit. They stated that the use of testosterone was much more beneficial for bodybuilding purposes at that age.

Basically, you have some good weight and build at your age bro, Take it easy and take your time, you have time for HGH. For now you will see little results from it.
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Shit i almost wana cry .hehe:) Such a good bunch of bros anwsered my questions everyone i can see With Experience and sound bros that realy do know what you are talking about. I realy apreciate it guys. Thanks also to greg bro for bumping this up for me. You sound like one of my freinds hes 21 says same thing about Gh you need it if you want to go pro, " the big boys do it" ( he does) etc. Oh as far as the reason im contemplating doing it is lol...i have acces to it for free. I know an aids patient and cost is not an isue. So i realisticaly will start my 3-4 kit cycle @ 1 iu like you guys redcomended and work my way up to 4.

PS: ZYg your saying ther is no point in the 2 day off thing 5 on 2 off? WHat is the reasoning behind this. Everyoen who responded here got some karma their way:)
Thanks again guys
 
Polfa/Jelfa said:
PS: ZYg your saying ther is no point in the 2 day off thing 5 on 2 off? WHat is the reasoning behind this. Everyoen who responded here got some karma their way:)
Thanks again guys
Im not sure why the 5 on 2 off started because when it was the "norm" no one seemed to beleive natural GH was affected by exo GH. With that in mind I think the original idea was to simply save money. Most of the studies I have seen show that GH has a very short halflife itself but does cause a cascade of reactions that does have a suppressing effect on natural production. The amount of suppression does seem to be dose related(just like AAS) but only lasts about 72 hours at which time normal GH production seem to pick right back up. Doing 5on 2off would likely allow a little bit of suppression recovery but since suppression seems to last about 3 days its likely not long enough to make much of a difference. Largely speculation on my part so take it with a grain of salt.
 
Just started GH (Saizen) Yesterday @ 2ius...Took it before my 5pm lift.....I didnt get a good nights sleep probably because I was so excited about it....24yrs old....5'10 198....I will do 2ius for my first 10 days....with no days off.....then go 5 on 2 off with 3 ius then in 1 month bump it to 4 but no more than four for 6months........I started Sust @500mg/wk 2 weeks ago...as well as Letrezole 1/2cc E/D......
 
Sounds real good. I might do the 2 of thing then and get an extra month or so more of the cycle. Next time i cycle i will compare any diferences in using 7 strait.
 
Doing GH at age 19 is really, really dumb.

I know that isn't the advice you want, but it's the best you'll get.

Keep the karma.
 
Polfa/Jelfa....please PM me or send me an instant message when you get this including a way to contact you. I would like to talk more about this with you if youd like. Maybe we can relate pretty well since we are about the same age. Thanks bro,

greg21
 
i am a track runner and hear of a lot of the pro's using it in track and field. i am currently planning and actually starting to save for it 2 years ahead of time. i am a freshman now and i'll be 23 when i start using it during my junior year in college. in your opinions is 23 to young to start using it for the strength and recovery benefits? i am planing on only using 2-3 iu's a day but not using the slin with it because i don't want to gain all of the weight.
 
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