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BlackIntel

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Hi guys I am 22, 5'7, 180lbs, 9-10% train naturally for 2 years and my last and first cycle was sustanon 200mg+deca durabolin 200mg for 6week with pct nolvadex of course.No more strengh of this cycle maybe i gain 5lbs but no more. Every one around me told me that I have a very good genetic for bodybuilding : good delts, big arms naturally, chest also, calves, and i always had big quad and a slim waist 27inch

So i want to start a new cycle here is what i think, i want mass and strengh but also stay lean :

Week 1-6or8 ?

Tren E : 400mg (start with200 first week) per week
Test Prop : 300 or 400mg per week
Deca or Winstrol ? Deca 400or600mg and winny 150mg per week ?

Can i add an oral for this cycle ? Anapolon, dianabol or anavar ?
I will also add sustanon 200mgfor the week 1 and 500mg of test Eper week the first 3 weeks beacause a friend give me this for my next cycle
P.S I have already try test E 250mg for 3 week and tren e just a little but it wasn't a really cycle so i know how i feel but not for the wins and the orals

I will also post my diet later
 
Wow what a train wreck...

Bro I honestly don't even know where to begin...

you absolutely should NOT do that much gear, the gear selection is way wrong, and your pct is just shit..
 
Slow night, I'm in

~EZ
 
Shit I guess I have to set this guy Straight.

The first thing you need to do before touching any gear is go get some blood work done!!!!!!

Please for your own health and future.

Next you will need to research HPTA function vs Prolactin secretion and 19-nor progesterone receptor stimulation.

Next you will need t research proper PCT and why you do not take nolva with a 19-nor.

Next research the proper ancileries to take on cycle.

Next realize you are only 22 and you have allready probably fucked your body up after reading about the above topics.

Case in point. Wow!!!!
 
forget the gear, you don't have a clue about it anyway gonna do more harm than good, concentrate on diet and training
 
i cant even get mad anymore... the ignorance here is beyond fucking laughable... do yourself a big favor and quit posting and reading about any of this man... this is so fucking bad... i mean, this is seriously so fucked up... i suppose you drink bottles of jack and dont get drunk? that's the comparable of only gaining 5 lbs on deca... now you want to run tren? fuck man, fuck, fuck, fuck...
 
He's going to juice anyway, he has in the past. You guys should get off your high horses and point him in the right direction.
 
BlackIntel said:
Hi guys I am 22, 5'7, 180lbs, 9-10% train naturally for 2 years and my last and first cycle was sustanon 200mg+deca durabolin 200mg for 6week with pct nolvadex of course.No more strengh of this cycle maybe i gain 5lbs but no more. Every one around me told me that I have a very good genetic for bodybuilding : good delts, big arms naturally, chest also, calves, and i always had big quad and a slim waist 27inch

So i want to start a new cycle here is what i think, i want mass and strengh but also stay lean :

Week 1-6or8 ?

Tren E : 400mg (start with200 first week) per week
Test Prop : 300 or 400mg per week
Deca or Winstrol ? Deca 400or600mg and winny 150mg per week ?

Can i add an oral for this cycle ? Anapolon, dianabol or anavar ?
I will also add sustanon 200mgfor the week 1 and 500mg of test Eper week the first 3 weeks beacause a friend give me this for my next cycle
P.S I have already try test E 250mg for 3 week and tren e just a little but it wasn't a really cycle so i know how i feel but not for the wins and the orals

I will also post my diet later
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Ok, too start your clearly a completely ignorant idiot that hat no fuking clue what your doing and couldn't care less about any of the guys telling you ya gunna hurt yourself which is exactly what u will do.
Ill tell u how too run your cycle just because I don't like seeing people fuk themselves up. Upto u weather u want too listen or not, I dare say you wont. Anyway here goes,

W1-8 Tren E 200mg ew, split into two doses. STAY at 200mg, do not increase too anymore.
W1-8 test prop, 400mg ew, e2d, so 100mg mon/wed/fri/sun
You need either caber or prami for prolactin from the tren, take it every 3rd day.
Also u want an AI, aromasin or adex also taken e3d.
If u have HCG then run it w2-8 500iu ew split into two 250iu doses.

For pct do not even think about touching nolvadex unless u really wanna mess yourself up.
U need clomid w1-4 dosed at 25/25/12.5/12.5
DAA
Hcgenerate
Forma stanzol
Continue Prami/caber through pct.

Pull ya fukin head in buddy and listen to people. Otherwise don't bother posting asking for advice. Just go ahead an run your ridiculous cycles and get your shit results.
 
Dylan22 said:
Ok, too start your clearly a completely ignorant idiot that hat no fuking clue what your doing and couldn't care less about any of the guys telling you ya gunna hurt yourself which is exactly what u will do.
Ill tell u how too run your cycle just because I don't like seeing people fuk themselves up. Upto u weather u want too listen or not, I dare say you wont. Anyway here goes,

W1-8 Tren E 200mg ew, split into two doses. STAY at 200mg, do not increase too anymore.
W1-8 test prop, 400mg ew, e2d, so 100mg mon/wed/fri/sun
You need either caber or prami for prolactin from the tren, take it every 3rd day.
Also u want an AI, aromasin or adex also taken e3d.
If u have HCG then run it w2-8 500iu ew split into two 250iu doses.

For pct do not even think about touching nolvadex unless u really wanna mess yourself up.
U need clomid w1-4 dosed at 25/25/12.5/12.5
DAA
Hcgenerate
Forma stanzol
Continue Prami/caber through pct..
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Ok for tren lower dose it's a very hard steroid so ok for 200mg, for the test prop i think it's good what you are telling me, i had to fine a product for prolactin of the tren ok
For the AI don't you think it's gonna low the effects of the test? A lot of people don't take it they just take with pct i think i had to try myself for see
When you told "IF" i have HCG mean that i don't need really or it's better anyway lot of people take it while and other after with pct i don't know too because i never took HCG
For clomid ok, don't you think nolvadex it's the same bro ?
Sorry for the questions and everything but otherwise you help me so thank you and i don't care about the negative comment i just want to learn all I can it's not bad so thank you for help me and the other they don't get my attention
 
Tren E is a long ester...needs to be ran longer than 8 weeks, better off using Tren Ace, and make sure you use Caber or Prami on cycle or you will regret it.

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If he "was going to do herion anyway" would we still tell him how to do it?

~EZ
 
If this was a 'heroin' forum, then yeh we would. But it's not. It's an AAS forum, were here the HELP people with AAS. I personally no exactly where he is coming from being a 21 year old myself, I understand that it's not in my best interest to be playing with steroids at my age, but no matter how many bro's tell me that I will still run them as I want to be the best I can be when I start on the stage. The difference between me and a lot of other young meatheads that just wanna do steroids too 'get big fast' is I put as much time and energy into learning everything I possibly can about AAS before I wen consider putting any into my body.
This guy is going to run AAS regardless, so I feel it's best too steer him in the right direction. At the end of the day people post in these forums because they want advice and help so they will listen too good advice and help about AAS, not being told not too do it when they are going too regardless.
 
BlackIntel said:
Ok for tren lower dose it's a very hard steroid so ok for 200mg, for the test prop i think it's good what you are telling me, i had to fine a product for prolactin of the tren ok
For the AI don't you think it's gonna low the effects of the test? A lot of people don't take it they just take with pct i think i had to try myself for see
When you told "IF" i have HCG mean that i don't need really or it's better anyway lot of people take it while and other after with pct i don't know too because i never took HCG
For clomid ok, don't you think nolvadex it's the same bro ?
Sorry for the questions and everything but otherwise you help me so thank you and i don't care about the negative comment i just want to learn all I can it's not bad so thank you for help me and the other they don't get my attention
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I think it's best too run an AI too control estrogen on cycle, makes for a much easier faster recovery.
Yes 'if' u already hav HCG then there is no harm in running it. If u don't then IMO its bit necessary when only running 400mg of test ew.
If u havnt already got
Your gear then get tren ace not enanthate, your original post made it look lyk u already had the gear which is why I put tren e in the cycle. But tren ace is the one u want, especially for a first time running tren. 50mg 4x week, just take it with the prop.
No nolva is not the same at all, do yourself a favour and do some research on nolva vs clomid and learn what they actually do too your body.
Tren is a 19nor steroid, under no circumstances should you ever take nolva with 19nor steroids. Can be very very bad.
 
100% wrong, that's not how it works here. And your arguement make no sense. If someone doesn't like the answer we don't change the answer, if the truth hurts so be it....We don't help people do damage to their body

~EZ
 
He's got a good base already in place at 5'7 and 180 at almost single digit bf so don't really see an issue and is old enough.. just needs a lot of help with a cycle because doesn't seem to know what he is doing.

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I say find radors post " so you want to build muscle and loose fat" and follow that. Alot of guy on this site can come across as dick heads i know i've been the one they are being a dick head to, but honestly they are right even when its not what a guy wanted to hear. They really know their shit so I choose to listen to them and take a couple steps back and learn and read everything I could. Its been months and I still ask stupid questions and have to be straightened out. If you dont lsten to them then thats your choice but know there is a wrong way and a proper way to do aas.
 
training700 said:
He's got a good base already in place at 5'7 and 180 at almost single digit bf so don't really see an issue and is old enough.. just needs a lot of help with a cycle because doesn't seem to know what he is doing.

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yeah bro a little help
 
Makes perfect sense to me. Ill simplify it for u tho,
The guy wants help with his cycle that he clearly needs, this is an AAS forum. The rules state you don't give advice to anyone under 21. He's 22, has a good base. So what's wrong with doing what this forum is for and helping the guy with his cycle! Or else change the rules and say no help for anyone under 25 which seems to be wat half the people on here go off.
 
The help is teaching him how to use aas properly to aviod wasting time momey, and HIS HEALTH...

~EZ
 
OP what happened to "I'll post my diet later"

~EZ
 
I think make this

Week 1 TestE 500mg Deca 400
Week 2-8 TestE 750mg and Deca 400
Week 9 Test E 500
Week 3-7 Dianabol or anapolon 50mg per day

What do you think about this I would like gain 20/30lbs and stay at 9-10%
And what do you think about the dosages ?
 
BlackIntel said:
I think make this

Week 1 TestE 500mg Deca 400
Week 2-8 TestE 750mg and Deca 400
Week 9 Test E 500
Week 3-7 Dianabol or anapolon 50mg per day

What do you think about this I would like gain 20/30lbs and stay at 9-10%

Hell no

~EZ
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