help for 2nd cycle and PCT

[PeacefulWarrior]

alright I'm going to be running my second cycle in about a month. my first cycle was
week 1-12 700 mg sustanon
week 1-6 25 mg winny
week 6-12 50 mg winny
ran no PCT after this one

cycle 2 will be week 1-12 700 mg sustanon
week 4-12 400 mg masteron
and I have winny also a friend told me I can run 100 mg of winny the last 6 weeks of the cycle


is this to much for a second cycle? what should I tweek or take out? also what would be a good post cycle to run? I have heard you're better off not running one I have also heard clomid is good


some stats are im 24, weigh 194 currently, not sure on BF at the moment

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

bump

 

[alcatraz1662]

alright I'm going to be running my second cycle in about a month. my first cycle was
week 1-12 700 mg sustanon
week 1-6 25 mg winny
week 6-12 50 mg winny
ran no PCT after this one

cycle 2 will be week 1-12 700 mg sustanon
week 4-12 200 mg masteron
and I have winny also a friend told me I can run 100 mg of winny the last 6 weeks of the cycle


is this to much for a second cycle? what should I tweek or take out? also what would be a good post cycle to run? I have heard you're better off not running one I have also heard clomid is good


some stats are im 24, weigh 194 currently, not sure on BF at the moment

height? take a pic my dude.

as far as the cycle goes....100mg of winny is brutal, well at least for me it is; i played ball in college and always had joint problems. as far as the mast goes...i think it should be ran longer...i'm not a big mast expert so bump for that

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

height? take a pic my dude.

as far as the cycle goes....100mg of winny is brutal, well at least for me it is; i played ball in college and always had joint problems. as far as the mast goes...i think it should be ran longer...i'm not a big mast expert so bump for that

I'm 5'7 I will try and upload a picture later tonight or tomorrow after the holiday is over.

 

[dylangemelli]

how can you not be sure on your body fat?? that alone screams not ready... you do understand that to get basically anything out of masteron that you need to be under 10% body fat right? its an aesthetic and its main use is for people already in excellent condition to polish off gains and really prep for contests, etc... its extremely beneficial, but in the right circumstance bro

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

how can you not be sure on your body fat?? that alone screams not ready... you do understand that to get basically anything out of masteron that you need to be under 10% body fat right? its an aesthetic and its main use is for people already in excellent condition to polish off gains and really prep for contests, etc... its extremely beneficial, but in the right circumstance bro

I know I'm not close to 10%, last I knew I was about 18 but I have leaned out a lot lately. I talked to my cousin today and need to get my body fat checked Saturday, he's a trainer and has helped me out a lot when I started working out 2 years ago

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Had to edit the first post. Masteron will be 400 mg a week not 200

 

[alcatraz1662]

I know I'm not close to 10%, last I knew I was about 18 but I have leaned out a lot lately. I talked to my cousin today and need to get my body fat checked Saturday, he's a trainer and has helped me out a lot when I started working out 2 years ago

No go on the mast, my friend

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

I wouldn't use mass unless you were 8-10 weeks out from a show... it's unecessary unless you are sub 10% bf...

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

If you are saying you are close to 10%, that probably means you are some where around 13% at least my guess... unless you are naturally a lean kid which does not sound like the case, not being mean...

how did you come up with 700mg as a dose? Really random... most sust is 250... why not just run 750... also just run your runny at 50mg for 4 weeks... don't do 100... again, that is uneccessary unless you are in show prep...

Or just run a test only cycle for 12 weeks and keep it simple.... 8 is kinda short.... then pct and clense....
Cheers
Johnny

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

No I naturally am a bigger person. But I know I'm not close to 10%. The 700mg is because the sust is 350 not 250. I thought that was very high for sunny though. But lately I'm thinking I don't want to do another cycle. I'm still coming off my first which wasn't that strong according to my friend and I ran no PCT and I feel depressed, sad, afraid I'm hurting my body stuff like that

If you are saying you are close to 10%, that probably means you are some where around 13% at least my guess... unless you are naturally a lean kid which does not sound like the case, not being mean...

how did you come up with 700mg as a dose? Really random... most sust is 250... why not just run 750... also just run your runny at 50mg for 4 weeks... don't do 100... again, that is uneccessary unless you are in show prep...

Or just run a test only cycle for 12 weeks and keep it simple.... 8 is kinda short.... then pct and clense....
Cheers
Johnny

 

[Makaveli Tha Don]

Am I the only one who sees a problem with him not running a pct after that first cycle? You should get blood work done, run a proper pct, get more blood work done, and then decide whether you wanna run another cycle, and this time do a proper pct after it.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

So what would be a good PCT? One friend said Clomid was good, I also heard nolva is good. What do you guys prefer and how much should I take?

 

[RickRock13]

Bro you have no business at all running a cycle right now. Run a proper PCT and get bloodwork done afterwards to see where your levels are. Right now you are probably still shutdown and fucked because you didn't run a proper PCT. This is exactly what you need to run NOW

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[meathead96]

Bro you have no business at all running a cycle right now. Run a proper PCT and get bloodwork done afterwards to see where your levels are. Right now you are probably still shutdown and fucked because you didn't run a proper PCT. This is exactly what you need to run NOW

Optimal PCT for best recovery:

Liquid Clomid 50/50/25/25 (AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!)
Liquid Aromasin (AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!)
Test Stack 17 (PM me or see thread below for info and discounts) http://w3.teststackrx.com/102.html
Ostarine 25mg per day (SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators)


http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...17-not-your-average-test-booster-1257533.html

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ACTNOW30 30% off
HZI7WTBZ 20% off


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Agreed. OP, you need to run a PCT like the one above before even thinking about another cycle. PCT is critical.

 

[hurricane]

i need to know your bf% to give proper advise on masteron.If you are over 12%, not even worth using and thats pushing it

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

You need to just run a pct now and stay off for a while or already very on a cruise dose of test... don't leave your body shut down dude...

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

my body fat is above 12% still I know that, I might be around 15-16 currently I'm waiting on my cousin to do my BFA. I have a friend and his cousin who I might have mentioned before who are telling me what to do, how to run it etc (both of them have cycled before and the cousin is a competitive bodybuilder) and they both said there is no need to run anything PCT, no clomid, nolva etc. I'm still young and don't want to be on HRT by the time I'm 30 so my next cycle will probably be my last when I decide to do it. but they both mentioned if I was to run clomid or whatever after a cycle that messes with my hormones even more than usual and that is usually how HRT is needed later. I do a lot of research though and see that a lot of people do take PCT's and some people don't. they did say I could run a "PCT" of kynoselen and ZMA.