Help design the perfect NFL football player anabolic steroid cycle

[George Spellwin]

Bros,

I'm working on an article about steroid cycles in the NFL. Experts are predicting that a lot of NFL players will be juicing like crazy this offseason because of the lockout.

Seeing as how the football league isn't able to implement testing, football players are expected to have the perfect amount of time to go through an anabolic steroid cycle or two before the lockout ends and before training camp starts.

So, question for you guys. What would you include in the perfect NFL player's anabolic steroid cycle? The one you guys pick as best will get awarded 50,000 Karma.

 

[Power36]

Test Prop, Var orals, GH if they arent already on it and the league cant test for it right?

Im not the AAS guru you guys are, but I can tell you this from knowing plenty of ex NFL guys and current pro athletes...unlike us mere mortals, they do not struggle putting on mass....they do not need to juice to get bigger, or improve strength too much...the game is brutal, folks careers end not because they were not strong or fast enough, but because the body breaks down and injuries catch up...there are tons of folks in the league who eat KFC and McD daily, drink lots of booze and smoke reefer often, and wake up with abs and are 8% BF year round without trying to "get cut"....they are in the league not because of but despite their training....the most important thing is recovery, and not raising eyebrows too much....so you would want a stack that clears the system obviously so if and when they are tested they are clean, which Id think most orals are "safe" for testing, Var is mild and wont blow them up, could help recovery from training sessions, and boost immune system...Deca is out because of how long it will be in the system....but Id say due to many of these guys not being as strict and discipline as guys on here with diet and supplements, not to get too cute or strict...and nothing that will make huge gains, you want roids that can improve recovery so they can practice more and train more....

so, simple, straight forward, something they dont need to be focusing on any complex cycles, mild cycles that are in and out of system, and help recovery and immune system....less pinning the better, less chance of their buddies seeing it, or someone who shouldnt, and with their travels even in off season somethign they pin once or twice a week would be nice not an ED or EOD roid, so with my limited knowledge, some Test and Var, maybe not even worry about it being prop, low dose Test and 50-100mg Var....those guys should have the money to afford good gear like Var at higher dose, and Im not sure on GH testing but Id say run that all the time for them to help keep the beat up body going....

So basically something thats a simple protocol, fast in and out of the system, and AAS that help them recover so they can practice their skill sessions more, hit the gym and track recover faster, so they can jump back on the field to practice skills more, and to recover or keep up with nagging soft tissue injuries, sore joints, all the banged up stuff that happens in football....simplicity, and recovery properties.....just my opinions!

 

[maxwkw]

I think that the cycle would be the duration of the off season.

1g of test
3-4iu of HGH
250mg deca (for joints)
anadrol or var (deoending on position)

 

[hesnobradpitt]

1-4 ,T-bol 60mg ed
1-10 ,Prop 100ed
1-8 , Tren A 75 ed
6-10 , Var 100ed
GHRP-6
GRF MOD 1-29
GH 4iu ed

GHRP/GRF: 100/50mcgs 3x per day workout days and 2x per day off days


Brad.

 

[bren565]

60 mg tbol isnt that way too much?

 

[JV]

HGH
Test
Anavar or Anadrol (depending on position)
Tren

 

[hesnobradpitt]

60 mg tbol isnt that way too much?

As a kick starter and at 4wks I find it just right , I have ran it much higher with little more gains so I settled there with only heartburn as a side .


Brad.

 

[Power36]

Deca or any nandrolone is a big no no....in the system way too long...and unless they get pharm grade gear, they need to be ultra cautious about any injectable...I would be hesitant with even tren, if you take an UG lab that has something thats NOT supposed to be in it, they are screwed if its something like nandrolone that stays in the system longer...I know guys who thought they were taking XYZ injectable, then a year later were popped for Nandrolone...you dont want to take that chance...with Test and GH there is nothing to worry about, and with orals if they know the time frame they can get off and be good....

My opinion, and Im not a guru on AAS like you all, but I do know football players...tren is a lot of pinning, and so many on here complain about crappy sides with tren, its not something any guy training a few times a day wants to deal with nor needs to...these guys are genetic freaks compared to us, so they wouldnt need tren for cutting or strength (isnt that why it so popular?), so the pinning often, and the risks of sides being unpleasant, as well isnt all tren from UG labs so there is the risk of it having something else in it (cant ever be sure)....

Test, Var, GH shouldnt be bad sides, shouldnt be worries about testing, should boost training recovery, injury recovery, immune system....tbol might not be bad either...anadrol dang Ive seen dudes blow up on that then have tremendous loss in gains, not something those guys wanna deal with....they are already as big and fast as they probably need to be or they wouldnt have made the league....really juice would be for reasons totally different than 90% of the folks on this forum...

 

[bgbay]

T400
MAST
Var
Sarms


Give them power, lowering body fat percentage while keeping their endurance high. The reason for the lowering of bf % is so when they come off the cycle and go through PCT they don't turn into fat, sluggish pigs.

 

[stevesmi]

totally depends on the position they play!

if you are a WR, KR, PR, RB, CB, S you need to be fast. that means no water weight at all. its like carrying a gallon of water while you run..
if you are a lineman, or LB.. you probably wont mind the water weight.. you just want the pure strength

 

[Power36]

some good points, alot depends on position....and depends on how they are training...and depends on how long they want to do it...and depends on how long they been in the league and if they are a starter and good to go or fighting to stay on the roster...so many variables....a gram of test is way too high guys, these dudes are all legit and do not need to get crazy at all....if youve been around them you would understand better hopefully....and BF is not a worry...it wouldnt hurt some of them to carry more bodyfat at all, as the game is brutal.....I hope Im not falling on deaf ears and some folks understand what Im trying to say.....I bet even 200-400mg test and 100mg Var daily, plus GH would work wonders for these people.....

 

[stevesmi]

having said all that the cycle for them during the season would be HGH 4 iu's per day. thats it. legal and they can afford.

in the offseason if they are bulking a 3 week cycle of dbol 30mg's. (players in the NFL are warned ahead of time when they are gonna get tested, plenty of time to get it out of their system)

 

[perico13]

I would say:
8 iu gh ed, 2iu subQ in am, 4iu im pre-wo, 2iu subQ post-wo
Test phenyl prop 100mg eod
Nandrolone phenyl prop 100mg eod
Tne 50mg ed 1-2hours pre-wo

Simple cycle fast esters that will clear quick if need be and provide size and strength.

 

[BigAndy69]

Nandrolone metabolites kick around for a while, not the best idea.

I would say Test Prop + Test Suspension before training
Var - 50-80mg ED
Trenbolone Acetate in moderate doses max 50mg ED since it seems to hinder athletic performance in high doses.
Winny is know to improve sprinting, 50mg ED taken orally, no injections, could easily crystallize at the site and stick around for a while.


Something like this:

Test Prop 100mg EOD
Tren 75mg EOD
Anavar 50mg ED
Winny 50mg ED
Test Suspension 50mg shot before training
Growth hormone 4-5ius ED or 8-10ius EOD

A little brain derived neurotropic growth factor if they can get it

 

[Power36]

Id just find a good doc who would give them the test, var, and GH straight from a pharmacy.....that way no worries about testing positive, you know exactly what your taking, and you can be monitored....and you can travel legally with the stuff if need be through airports as in the offseason these guys travel alot, to friends, to various places to train with different coaches, hell just to party......so they find the right high priced doc who keeps it totally confidential, they get legit gear so no worries about impure UG lab stuff having nandrolone or something longer acting in it that they test positive for later, etc....less worries..make it legal to travel...make it simple to follow....pinning Test a few times a week, GH EOD IM or ED SubQ, pop one or two Vars a day 50-100mg from a good HRT compounding pharmacy out of FL, and they are good to go boost immune system, muscle recovery, and can train and practice more....

 

[moya]

100mg test suspension ed
50mg tren suspension ed
20mg halo ed

 

[Gawd]

Test Prop - 100mg eod
Tren Ace - 100mg eod
Masteron - 100mg eod
Anadrol Kickstart - 100mg ed

 

[bobby716]

1-10 test e 500mg every 5 days
1-4 d-bol 50mg ED
10-16 test prop 100mg EOD
10-16 tren ace 100mg EOD
10-16 anavar 50 mg ED
1-16 GH 8 iu ED

 

[Power36]

Man Ill be interested to see what he picks as the preferred cycle...I think there is actually too much complicated stuff going on here, or higher doses than needed....these guys do not need seriously high doses unless they are some long shot to make a team and need to try to just blow it all out....they need to recover better from workouts and training sessions....

Id say max 500mg Test, 100mg Var Daily, and 30-50-iu GH a week, a nice long proper PCT to keep things going after....anything else might be overkill...as someone mentioned above maybe some Halodrol, Tbol, or if needing size some Dbol....stick to orals less chances of getting popped later for anything in the system....network with your boys in the league who have doctors in the know, or "consultants" who already know how to do this stuff....get the Test, Var, and GH legally...

 

[George Spellwin]

With the NFL lockout still in effect, there is no steroid testing in place. And with no testing, the NFL has become the Wild West where players are able to juice without worry. And as the lockout drags on, many experts contend that players will be able to run through full steroid cycles, and come back better than ever!

Here's a link to the new article:
NFL on Steroids Players on Anabolic Steroid Cycles During Lockout | Bodybuilding News EliteFitness.com

 

[bssimar]

With the NFL lockout still in effect, there is no steroid testing in place. And with no testing, the NFL has become the Wild West where players are able to juice without worry. And as the lockout drags on, many experts contend that players will be able to run through full steroid cycles, and come back better than ever!

Here's a link to the new article:
NFL on Steroids Players on Anabolic Steroid Cycles During Lockout | Bodybuilding News EliteFitness.com

When you said most cycles take between 8-12 MONTHS to finish, shouldn't that have been weeks?

 

[Captain FT]

I know several pro football players who would really frown on this thread. One of them, no one would ever believe was NOT juicing because of how incredible he looks and I know for a fact he's not juicing. He's incredibly genetically gifted, both he and his brother.

 

[Power36]

Lots of gentic freaks in the league....a big part of why they made it...but even then to prolong a career I know genetic freaks juice to recover so they can practice more, play more, recover faster from nagging injuries....plus weed and coke are rampant in the NFL and NBA, tons of those guys are pot heads and coke heads..if you think pro sports are pure, you are gravely mistaken...

Juicing and GH is good for guys to recover faster and keep playing....all these fancy cycles are too much a risk to get caught, you cant play with Deca period, Tren if its a nandrolone too right, and Mast I know nothing about testing but cant risk it not being Mast.....stick to orals, injectable test and GH.....plenty safe health wise and safe testing wise....