Help: Critque my new cycle...

[blondwhisky]

I am planning on running my second cycle by mid to late september. Im 6'3 185 pounds at about 11% bf. Im looking for lean gains but achieving the mass of approximately 200 pounds at a lower bf. I was planning on running a 15 week cycle with:

Week 1-15: EQ 400mg/week
Week 1-15: Test E 250mg/week
Week 10-15: Winstrol 50mg ED

Please let me know if this will be sufficient to meet my goals as i want to be ready for next years Track and Field season. I also dont know much about PCT so suggestions of what i need would be appreciated!!

After a 15 week cycle like this id take the same amount of time off as well correct??

thanks for the help

 

[Outtlaw]

I dont particularly like it, but if it works for you then go for it.

 

[Ross]

I am planning on running my second cycle by mid to late september. Im 6'3 185 pounds at about 11% bf. Im looking for lean gains but achieving the mass of approximately 200 pounds at a lower bf. I was planning on running a 15 week cycle with:

Week 1-15: EQ 400mg/week
Week 1-15: Test E 250mg/week
Week 10-15: Winstrol 50mg ED

Please let me know if this will be sufficient to meet my goals as i want to be ready for next years Track and Field season. I also dont know much about PCT so suggestions of what i need would be appreciated!!

After a 15 week cycle like this id take the same amount of time off as well correct??

thanks for the help

If your gonna use TEST(which I don't reccomend) use it AT LEAST 300-400mgs a Week. Also bump the EQ to 4-500mgs.
Replace the Winny with tbol, 50mg ED, 6 weeks.

Should get you to your goal with relative safety.

 

[nydj66]

I am planning on running my second cycle by mid to late september. Im 6'3 185 pounds at about 11% bf. Im looking for lean gains but achieving the mass of approximately 200 pounds at a lower bf. I was planning on running a 15 week cycle with:

Week 1-15: EQ 400mg/week
Week 1-15: Test E 250mg/week
Week 10-15: Winstrol 50mg ED

Please let me know if this will be sufficient to meet my goals as i want to be ready for next years Track and Field season. I also dont know much about PCT so suggestions of what i need would be appreciated!!

After a 15 week cycle like this id take the same amount of time off as well correct??

thanks for the help

For a 2nd cycle yours is reasoneable. Hopefully you compete only in the shot put or javelin because 15 extra lbs is really going to slow you down in any running event.

 

[adicus]

I agree with ross. Bump the test to 400mg, the EQ to 500, and run the EQ one more week than you planned. 16wks is the magic number for me and EQ.

 

[blondwhisky]

If your gonna use TEST(which I don't reccomend) use it AT LEAST 300-400mgs a Week. Also bump the EQ to 4-500mgs.
Replace the Winny with tbol, 50mg ED, 6 weeks.

Should get you to your goal with relative safety.

If you dont recommend TEST what would you recommend....As well my source does not have access to TBOL so i think im kinda hooped there....

any recommendations would be great.....

 

[Ross]

If you dont recommend TEST what would you recommend....As well my source does not have access to TBOL so i think im kinda hooped there....

any recommendations would be great.....

Weeks 1-14: EQ 500mgs
Weeks 1-6: TBOL-50mgs ED

This is your cycle.

 

[sweed]

run winny one more week than test/eq then start pct next day after finished with winny. 6'3'' at 185.. is that correct??

 

[diesel69]

well if your gunna run that cycle like the guys said might wana run winny a bit longer. Aswell if you you run that cycle you might wana run something to kick start it. Test enth and EQ both long acting ethers and you won't feel the effects for about 3- 4 weeks. Maybe throw in 3 weeks of Test prop @ 100mg eod or 50mg ed (if you wana keep water wieght down), or maybe D-bol @ 30-40mg ed for first 4 weeks if ya don't care about water. My self personaly would run the Test E @ min 400mg per week also and then you would have a pretty solid cycle. As for PCT i always like the norm. HCG @ 1000ui Mon,Wed,Fri for 3 weeks -start this about 6 days after your last shot(EQ or Test E) . 40mg of Nolvadex started day 6 also run for 3 weeks, then keep running Nolvadex @ 20mg for another 3weeks and you should be great. Good luck bro.

 

[blondwhisky]

ya roughly 6'3 185.....and i dont have access to TBOL so that is not going to work....i dont have any leads on any other sources so im not going to pry too much, is there something else besides Prop i can use to kick start my cycle as it F*ckin hurts way too bad, and i dont want the water from dbol????

 

[Outtlaw]

ya roughly 6'3 185.....and i dont have access to TBOL so that is not going to work....i dont have any leads on any other sources so im not going to pry too much, is there something else besides Prop i can use to kick start my cycle as it F*ckin hurts way too bad, and i dont want the water from dbol????

You guys cant expect to run low dose cycles with no sides and no bloat, and expect to gain 20+ lbs of lean mass. Unless of course your "Goodfellow", he blows up off of just 250mg/wk of test . If you want to use the compounds you listed, then I'd run them like so:

Week 1-6 50mg/day Winstrol
Week 1-14 600mg Eq
Week 1-14 500mg Test-E

Again, not my ideal choice of cycles. But those are the compounds you wanted, so that's how I'd set it up.

 

[blondwhisky]

You guys cant expect to run low dose cycles with no sides and no bloat, and expect to gain 20+ lbs of lean mass. Unless of course your "Goodfellow", he blows up off of just 250mg/wk of test . If you want to use the compounds you listed, then I'd run them like so:

Week 1-6 50mg/day Winstrol
Week 1-14 600mg Eq
Week 1-14 500mg Test-E

Again, not my ideal choice of cycles. But those are the compounds you wanted, so that's how I'd set it up.

so if you were in my shoes, what would the compounds of choice be for you and how would you run them?

 

[Outtlaw]

so if you were in my shoes, what would the compounds of choice be for you and how would you run them?

How did I know you were going to ask that question? The changes I made to your cycle I think make it pretty solid, and you should be able to reach your goal without any problems running it that way. No offense, but I dont really feel like drawing up cycle options. Besides, you already ran out a list of things that you DONT want to use for whatever reason. Maybe you could come up with some cycle ideas or compounds that you might want to use, and then we can tweek them and add our advice if needed.

I think I was thinking more of myself than of you when it came to whether I thought the cycle was "ideal" or not. I set up my cycles a certain way, based upon what works best for me. But you're not me, and this is only your second cycle so you should be just fine.

 

[diesel69]

The list of options is way to many to go through.. maybe research the board some more..and/or give us at least a list of what you have access too.. i.e. if you want to run your winny late in cycle like that, you could run a primo or anavar early for your immidiate kick both have very few sides and virtually no water retention(that D-bol has. You also illiminate the injects with these); although, you pay for it with both being pretty pricey! Other than that bud, do your research!

Diesel69

 

[paridhm]

I'll give my opinions based on the compounds you have listed

Eq @ 500mg 1 - 12
Test E @ 375mg 1 - 10
Winny @ 50mg ed 1 - 6 (that will give a small kickstart)