help- colesterol is through the roof

[DepressiveJuice]

just got more of my blood work results.

trygleciries- 112
HDL- 22
LDL- 253
colesterol- 297

im on a keto diet so i am assuming the high fat is causing the problem? the only supps i am using is clen and nyc. no AAS yet. any tips????

 

[brotheriron]

May be genetic buddy, alot of high colesterol cases are simply genetic with a normal-ish diet.
Ant history in the family?
Bro

 

[40butpumpin]

just got more of my blood work results.

trygleciries- 112
HDL- 22
LDL- 253
colesterol- 297

im on a keto diet so i am assuming the high fat is causing the problem? the only supps i am using is clen and nyc. no AAS yet. any tips????

Those number are an indication that you're definitely not doing something right. You say "high fat is causing the problem," however, if you're on the right kind of fat it can only HELP those numbers. I've posted many times on cholesterol and supp's to help protect yourself from CV disease. I prefer you do a search under my handle instead of me doing the search and pasting that info in this post. Good luck with it and I'd stay from winny if I were you. If you have any questions after reading my past posts please feel free to PM me or continue them on this thread. hth

 

[DepressiveJuice]

hey thanks for the replies guys.

brotheriron- no one in my family has ever taken a colesterol test so im not sure if its genetics

40butpumpin- i'm at work right now but i'll do a search as soon as i get home. thanks for the help

im getting fats from whole eggs, chicken, bacon, pepperoni and cheeses. im going to keep the keto diet but replace the fats with fish, fish oil and flax. keeping the cheeses though

 

[Triple J]

garlic, fish oil, flush-free niacin

 

[Mo T 4 Me]

Those are strange results if you have never taken roids. It looks like a blood test after a winny cycle (high ldl, low hdl). Maybe the keto diet is not for you. You should do some more tests once your dieting time is over.

You should mention that you have used T3 for a long time. I don't know what is T3 influence on blood lipids. May be some experts will tell.

 

[40butpumpin]

garlic, fish oil, flush-free niacin

These products -- as well as some others -- will definitely help blood lipids, however, there are other products that address more crucial CV health issues such as inflammation, excessive homocysteine and high fibrinogen levels. If anyone is serious about immediate and longterm CV health they should get well acquainted with these terms and how to protect themselves from them. hth

 

[Jordaz]

Hey 40butpumpin you ever try that Policosanol (sp?) I thinking of giving that a try...Was wondering about sides?

I take Garlic and Fish oil. I would also recomend you stay far away from winny! I did winny/deca last summer and my Chol. went from 238 to 348!

 

[40butpumpin]

Hey 40butpumpin you ever try that Policosanol (sp?) I thinking of giving that a try...Was wondering about sides?

I take Garlic and Fish oil. I would also recomend you stay far away from winny! I did winny/deca last summer and my Chol. went from 238 to 348!

Hey, bro. No, I've yet to try Policosanol because my total is around 180 as it is. Policosanol will get your total down and for me that could mean to a dangerous level so I've been staying away from it.

I have been using certain anti-inflammatory enzymes which are known to lower C-Reactive Protein levels as well as supp's to lower homocysteine.

I also take a lot of Garlic and Fish Oil!

IMO BB'ers (or should I say AS users) really need to be on top of this.

 

[Triple J]

40: the fish oil can directly improve the inflammatory condition through its econosoid balancing effects. As I am sure you know, too many bad econosoids is very pro-inflammatory.

 

[40butpumpin]

Absolutely, too high amounts of Omega-6 (coming from polyunsaturated vegetable oils) combined with too low Omega-3's, will result in excessive pro-inflammatory eicosanoids. That is why it is critical to increase Omega-3 intake. Omega-3 EFA's coming from fish oil are the best from what I'm reading.

As far as C-Reactive Protein and arterial inflammation goes, however, there are very powerful enzymes that can have a dramatic effect on CV health. IMO even more so than fish oil and I base that on everything I've been reading. I'm not saying to stop taking fish oil, but rather add these if you are known to have high C-Reactive Protein levels.

IMO, going to the doc to get a lipid profile to determine your CV health or heart attack risk is worthless and a complete waste of time and money. Ask him for C-Reactive Protein, Homocysteine and Fibrinogen tests. These will tell you about your true CV state of health.

If you're worried about it, get these tests and let the results dictate how aggressive you have to be to help yourself. But keep in mind that there are substances (non-pharmaceutical substances) which exist that can and will help you.

 

[crsnavet]

Looks similar to my numbers 2 months after my winny/deca cycle. The winny really jacks the cholesterol. My numbers were WAY worse. I told my Dr. I was on AS and she still couldn't believe they would cause the numbers I had.
To make a long story short, Doc prescriped some 40mg Lipitor and after 3 months, my #'s were as if I was the healthiest person on the planet. The doc still thinks I have genetic problems to get the numbers so skewed, so she still gives me lipitor. I plan on doubling the dose on my cycle when I add the winny in 8 weeks.

 

[40butpumpin]

crsnavet , if you take a statin med, such as Lipitor, you need to get yourself on CoQ10 as the statins will suck that stuff right out of your body, and heart! Don't blow this off, bro, it really does that. In fact Merck, one of the pharmaceutical giants, has obtained a patent for the combination of CoQ10 with statins in one prescription. If your doc hasn't told you about this you need to get on some asap.

 

[crsnavet]

40-Does this only happen on cycle? I am a bit confused. I haven't done any AS in about 16months until about 10 days ago. I just started a dbol/sust cycle with winny planned at the end.

The only problem is, I got laid off and health insurance is gone. I stocked up on Lipitor, but nobody mentioned that other stuff!

 

[40butpumpin]

40-Does this only happen on cycle? I am a bit confused. I haven't done any AS in about 16months until about 10 days ago. I just started a dbol/sust cycle with winny planned at the end.

The only problem is, I got laid off and health insurance is gone. I stocked up on Lipitor, but nobody mentioned that other stuff!

Does what only happen? High cholesterol? No, it can come from a poor diet as well other reasons, certain med's (beta blockers) for example can cause lipid imbalances.

CoQ10 you can get from any supplement store, online or at your local mall. It can get a bit pricey, however, and there are different grades of quality out there. BAC pro-ly has a good price and carries good quality stuff. I've been using lef.org's stuff, but will be switching to a CoQ10/L-Carnitine Fumarate combo soon by Pure Encapsulations. I take 100mg ed of CoQ10.

 

[crsnavet]

40- so you are just talking about Lipitor and other statin meds in general needing coQ10 to work properly? This really has no affect on the juice, but for my own long term health I should be taking the coQ10, correct?
After your post, I did a search and read a few articles on the web about this. It is the first I have ever heard!

 

[40butpumpin]

40- so you are just talking about Lipitor and other statin meds in general needing coQ10 to work properly? This really has no affect on the juice, but for my own long term health I should be taking the coQ10, correct?
After your post, I did a search and read a few articles on the web about this. It is the first I have ever heard!

Yeah man, if you're on ANY statin med then you need to supplement with CoQ10. It's not that it needs CoQ10 to work properly, but rather the statins will leach it right out of your body and CoQ10 is critical for heart health. So to protect yourself, you need to take CoQ10 when taking a statin med.

I can't speak to either effecting the juice. I do know that I have taken CoQ10 through many cycles and haven't seen any issues with it. I've never taken any cholesterol med, including statins, however.

Yeah it's too bad your doc didn't inform you of that.

 

[AustinTX]

just got more of my blood work results.

trygleciries- 112
HDL- 22
LDL- 253
colesterol- 297

im on a keto diet so i am assuming the high fat is causing the problem? the only supps i am using is clen and nyc. no AAS yet. any tips????

Man you're a walking advertisement for Keto diets....
I think those diets are nuts with all the all you can eat bacon type of mentality some have. Switch to a low fat diet if you haven't already, egg beaters are great, you can get used to fat free milk, may have to taper it down, etc. Cheese is the hardest thing for me to let go of too

Other than the advice above (healthy fats, niacin, omega-3s, CLA too from some recent studies) I'd not let your doc get away with a plan of 6 mos of diet change and a recheck; those are whacked out numbers and you ought to start something now, just to get it under control. Hate to hear you asking how long you have wait after an angioplasty before working out full time when you're 30