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lilj888

lilj888

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Well I think its time for metoo start roiding, Im 23 years old im only 5'5 and weigh 130 pounds but i have been working out for along time now and my weight is low cause im a wrestler and im short

Im looking for suggestion on a roid that will make me cut and solid but at the same time add alot of mass any suggestions?

I do believe i am capable of getting bitch tits just because i have poofy nipples and my chest is a little flappy no matter how good i work it out its the weekest and least solid part on me.

help would be appreciated but if ur gonna flame add some useful info cuz i dont wanna waiste my time reading crap
 
lilj888 said:
Well I think its time for metoo start roiding, Im 23 years old im only 5'5 and weigh 130 pounds but i have been working out for along time now and my weight is low cause im a wrestler and im short

Im looking for suggestion on a roid that will make me cut and solid but at the same time add alot of mass any suggestions?

I do believe i am capable of getting bitch tits just because i have poofy nipples and my chest is a little flappy no matter how good i work it out its the weekest and least solid part on me.

help would be appreciated but if ur gonna flame add some useful info cuz i dont wanna waiste my time reading crap
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If you want to bulk, then you have to eat to bulk and put on mass, if you want to cut then you have to eat to cut. There is not magic pill or substance thats going to cut you up and add "a lot of mass" at the same time. Its one or the other buddy.
 
Seems to to like you need to get your diet in check. Your height has nothing to do with why you only weigh 130lbs I am only 5'6 but I weigh 180lbs with about 9% bodyfat without steroids so check your diet.
 
i also forgot to add i do eat alot, lots of protein and fatty foods so i can gain weight to make muscle, i am currently cut with some good mass, i hit plateus when i work out so im looking for something to help me pass that that will keep me cut and mass, I heard tren does that but the side effects are high and im looking for other alternatives enless tren is really only the best choice


gman you must be 5 times the size of me though, not all have genitics that great.
 
lilj888 said:
i also forgot to add i do eat alot, lots of protein and fatty foods so i can gain weight to make muscle, i am currently cut with some good mass, i hit plateus when i work out so im looking for something to help me pass that that will keep me cut and mass, I heard tren does that but the side effects are high and im looking for other alternatives enless tren is really only the best choice


gman you must be 5 times the size of me though, not all have genitics that great.
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Do you track your calories??? Try changing your routine.
 
I think it's time for you to not start roiding.
Do some more research on diet first and then look into first cycles.
It is obvious you are not ready yet.
 
srf173 said:
I think it's time for you to not start roiding.
Do some more research on diet first and then look into first cycles.
It is obvious you are not ready yet.
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Yes obviously would be stating it lightly.
 
qman04 said:
Well if you have tried everything you could to gain weight then you can't go wrong with test.
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No such thing. There isn't a person alive who can't gain weight by adding more calories. Whenever someone says they can't gain weight it's because they don't eat enough. Every time. Always.

This is typical of the most misguided advice around -- using drugs as the first resort instead of the last.

Eat more. Train more. You can make amazing gains with supplements alone.

Roids are for those who have paid their dues.
 
Agreed... for years I wondered why I never gained weight, why my strength never increased, why I hit plateaus.... then I started AAS in my late 20's.... shortly after, I would start wondering all over again... why am I not getting strong and huge? The single most important changes I have ever made is improving my diet (eating more) and changing my workout routines periodically... the body adapts quickly, so you have to constantly keep it guessing... AAS is not the answer for you yet dude... tap into what your body can do naturally first, then you'll appreciate much more what AAS can do for you!
 
lilj888 said:
i also forgot to add i do eat alot, lots of protein and fatty foods so i can gain weight to make muscle, i am currently cut with some good mass, i hit plateus when i work out so im looking for something to help me pass that that will keep me cut and mass, I heard tren does that but the side effects are high and im looking for other alternatives enless tren is really only the best choice


gman you must be 5 times the size of me though, not all have genitics that great.
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First off bro, you do not have "some good mass" if you weigh 130lbs. I've only got you by 3 inches but I outweigh you by almost 70lbs and I hardly think I've got good mass. You need to get your diet dialed and learn to grow. If you can't grow naturally, you're not going to get much from any cycle.
Second, stay away from tren. that's about the last thing you are ready for. I'd reccomend test for anybody's first cycle. But, learn to train and eat right and get your weight up to at least 150 before you do anything. Good luck to you bro!
 
good info. My routine i do switch up when i am not gaining much strength, I consume whatever is in my site, i prob take in about 4-5000 cal a day i work out 5 times a week one muscle a day for around 1 hour. I try to gain weight but it doesnt happen im not a completly muscular build so it is hard for metoo get mass but if you look at me im a decent size. I will say i prob don't weigh as much as you guys is because my legs are very skinny and i work them out but its hard because i have had surgery on them. If my legs were a good size id prob weigh 25 more pounds.

If i were to take test what would be the best kind or should i take sustanon.

Basically im looking for a roid that promotes fat loss at the same time adds good strength with out getting much water retention, and once off most of the size stays. And im not sure put i would think by the way my chest looks that i am gyno prone.
 
Dude, if you were eating 4-5K calories a day, you'd be huge...one way or another (and I'd venture to say it'd be more fat than muscle)..... You might want to try out fitday.com and see what your calories are amounting to. Guys that are much bigger than you barely eat that much, and those are the serious bodybuilders! Also, you shouldn't eat just anything in sight... a whopper, fries and apple pie is not the kind of diet you want... load up with better carbs such as whole grains, sweet potatoes, brown rice, etc.

What's your workout routine like? # of exercises? # of sets? # reps? how heavy are you lifting? I still say that a better diet and better workout routine is what you need.

And if you're concerned with bloat and gyno, you'll have to be careful with test. You're not going to find a "roid that promotes fat loss...." "Roids" don't make you lose fat, a better diet and cardio will. Do you do any cardio?
 
Well when i said i eat anything in sight i wasnt talkn bout whoppers and fries cuz those are barely in my sight cuz i never go to them, I eat good and semi good food but not pure shitty food.

Ill give u my Bicept routine for today

Warm up the bis with light weight

5sets of preacher curls- 40x10, 50x10,60x10, 70x8, 80x3 I got stronger in this so i wasnt expecting to do 3 sets of 10

3sets of reverse curls- 30x12,40x10,50x8

3sets of standing dumbell curls- 20x10(per arm), 25x8, 30x7

3 sets of Hammer dumbell curls- 20x10, 25x8, 30x8

3 sets of standing barbell curls(started to die out)-40x10, 50x8, 60x4
and
3 sets of reverse curls on pully machine- 30x12, 50x10, 70x6

I put my weekest areas of the muscle up in the begining then i do the stronger at the end.

Anyway i think i just need a good roid i know ima take one no matter what i just want to know what would be the best choice for me.
 
lilj888 said:
Well when i said i eat anything in sight i wasnt talkn bout whoppers and fries cuz those are barely in my sight cuz i never go to them, I eat good and semi good food but not pure shitty food.

Ill give u my Bicept routine for today

Warm up the bis with light weight

5sets of preacher curls- 40x10, 50x10,60x10, 70x8, 80x3 I got stronger in this so i wasnt expecting to do 3 sets of 10

3sets of reverse curls- 30x12,40x10,50x8

3sets of standing dumbell curls- 20x10(per arm), 25x8, 30x7

3 sets of Hammer dumbell curls- 20x10, 25x8, 30x8

3 sets of standing barbell curls(started to die out)-40x10, 50x8, 60x4
and
3 sets of reverse curls on pully machine- 30x12, 50x10, 70x6

I put my weekest areas of the muscle up in the begining then i do the stronger at the end.

Anyway i think i just need a good roid i know ima take one no matter what i just want to know what would be the best choice for me.
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Have you ever heard of overtraining??
 
johnny-drama said:
I call bullshit on that work out
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why would i make up a work out? overtraining i dont think i am i take good rest between and 5 excersices is a good amount. I also only work out my muscle once a week since i work one a day
 
That's too many sets for biceps. 20 I believe.
Bicep is a small muscle, I usually keep my bi w/o to 1 warmup and about 10 hard sets.
 
all i wanted to know was what would be a good roid to start for my stats thats all but now this just keeps goin on. Can anyone give me the simple answer i was looking for
 
lilj888 said:
all i wanted to know was what would be a good roid to start for my stats thats all but now this just keeps goin on. Can anyone give me the simple answer i was looking for
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pshhh, bro please stop calling it "roids" i cant stand that....the simple answer you are looking for/want to hear....is dbol/drol. take it, put on some weight and lose it in a matter of a few weeks. have fun :rainbow:
 
4-5000 calories a day @ 130 is a load of crap. Im nearly twice your size and thats what im consuming and i still grow on that
 
well i quess i dont grow is because i do to much excersice is what u guys say, I got a different metablism not everyone has the same, i have to take a shit every hour the way i eat, so im sure i got a fast metabolism and it sucks to have to take one every min
and ur telln me to take dbol/drol and ima loose my gains thats why i asked what would be a good one to keep gains once off cuz i kno there are ones that give u nice solid gains
 
lilj888 said:
well i quess i dont grow is because i do to much excersice is what u guys say, I got a different metablism not everyone has the same, i have to take a shit every hour the way i eat, so im sure i got a fast metabolism and it sucks to have to take one every min
and ur telln me to take dbol/drol and ima loose my gains thats why i asked what would be a good one to keep gains once off cuz i kno there are ones that give u nice solid gains
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i can believe his calorie story to about 4500 cause my metabolism is so fast that i have to eat more than 4000 to grow at all. some trainer at my gym said i was a "hard gainer". the only problem i have is forcing my self to eat so much. it's not that i get full it's just i get tired of fucking eating all the damn time. i can see where he is coming from and the answer to your question is testosterone. but at least try and get to 150 like someone said before. i know it's hard i'm at 145 and i'm really trying to eat like a horse so i can get there.

i'll give you the advice i recieved. make 4 peanut butter or tuna sandwiches b4 you go to bed so that they are already there to eat the next day. wake up eat 3 packs of oatmeal and wash it down with a protein shake. take all four sandwiches with you to work/school and eat one on your way there, and one an hour or two after you're there. go get some chicken for lunch with some sort of potatoes. eat the third sandwich an hour or two after lunch and the fourth on your way home. after that go train and have another protein shake afterwards. eat dinner (make sure you have some fruit and veggies), watch some tv/fuck your girlfriend, make 4 sandwiches, go to sleep and repeat the cycle the next day. it should feel like eating is your job, believe that. i know i could only keep that up for about a week and a few days at first but now i'm really close so i'm trying really hard to stick to it. i know it blows the big one but just try it for a little bit and if you dont weigh more by the end of the WEEK i'd honestly be surprised.
be sure to actually train cause it will turn into fat if you don't which i can tell you're afraid of.
 
So what your saying for him to eat is
3 packs of oatmeal and a protien shake
4 peanut butter sandwiches consumed throughout the day
some chicken and potatoes for lunch
a protien shake after workout
and dinner
???
 
Its obvious he is trying to get guys to say what he wants to hear. trying to justify the reason to get on a cycle.130 lbs any weight you put on will be good weight. Pack the sandwiches and go lift.
 
wolfman87 said:
i can believe his calorie story to about 4500 cause my metabolism is so fast that i have to eat more than 4000 to grow at all. some trainer at my gym said i was a "hard gainer". the only problem i have is forcing my self to eat so much. it's not that i get full it's just i get tired of fucking eating all the damn time. i can see where he is coming from and the answer to your question is testosterone. but at least try and get to 150 like someone said before. i know it's hard i'm at 145 and i'm really trying to eat like a horse so i can get there.

i'll give you the advice i recieved. make 4 peanut butter or tuna sandwiches b4 you go to bed so that they are already there to eat the next day. wake up eat 3 packs of oatmeal and wash it down with a protein shake. take all four sandwiches with you to work/school and eat one on your way there, and one an hour or two after you're there. go get some chicken for lunch with some sort of potatoes. eat the third sandwich an hour or two after lunch and the fourth on your way home. after that go train and have another protein shake afterwards. eat dinner (make sure you have some fruit and veggies), watch some tv/fuck your girlfriend, make 4 sandwiches, go to sleep and repeat the cycle the next day. it should feel like eating is your job, believe that. i know i could only keep that up for about a week and a few days at first but now i'm really close so i'm trying really hard to stick to it. i know it blows the big one but just try it for a little bit and if you dont weigh more by the end of the WEEK i'd honestly be surprised.
be sure to actually train cause it will turn into fat if you don't which i can tell you're afraid of.
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thank you thats all the info i wanted to here finally someone that could answer my question thanks
 
If that bicep routine is how you train every muscle you are seriously overtraining anf that is why you are not growing. Bro I am 6' 225 lbs and I do about half that much bicep work. That is rediculous. It does not matter how much you rest between sets. You need to dial in your diet and training bro and I promise you will gain.
 
gabulldogs02 said:
Its obvious he is trying to get guys to say what he wants to hear. trying to justify the reason to get on a cycle.130 lbs any weight you put on will be good weight. Pack the sandwiches and go lift.
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Thank you.

Too many people are too anxious to give too much advice about taking too much gear to people who are too young and too inexperienced.

This guy and guys like him haven't paid any dues. It's an insult to all the guys who take it seriously.
 
Ya know, the sad thing is there are tons of other dudes just like this one....not willing to take good, sound advice from people with years of experience. I wish I had people steering me in the right direction when I was in high school and college.

Dude, change up your workout routine.... for starters, try two muscle groups per day (chest & tri's, back & bi's, legs & shoulders).... I don't know anyone that works biceps alone in one day.... increase the weights and decrease your reps to 6-8.... stick to the basic, compound exercises (bench press, squats, bicep curls, etc).

Don't throw a tantrum about not getting the advice you want to hear... you can take all the test, etc. you want.... I guarantee you will not grow much...and then you'll lose it all. You've been given alot of sound advice... use it!
 
Bro, you have gotten lots of good advice here. I'm going to throw out one more peice for you. In this endeavor of building a body the most important thing to do is to find somebody that has a build you are aspiring for - we can all close our eyes and imagine how we want to look. Then, make sure that goal is realistic and finally, find out what this person has done by seeking advice from them. Take that advice to heart and follow it. They have already accomplished what you want to achieve, they know what they're talking about. For myself, I want to do a small show. I am in better shape than probably 90% of the people just walking the streets and probably 95% of the guys my age (40). But, put me in a room with some of the guys on this board and there are alot of people I can learn from because around here I may be just better than average. When I ask quadsweep for advice and he gives it, I follow it. The reason I follow it is because the guy is a freak and knows alot more than I do. Listen to the people giving you advice bro, there is nobody on this board that doesn't want to see all of their fellow bro's succeed.
 
bluetwistedsteel67 said:
Bro, you have gotten lots of good advice here. I'm going to throw out one more peice for you. In this endeavor of building a body the most important thing to do is to find somebody that has a build you are aspiring for - we can all close our eyes and imagine how we want to look. Then, make sure that goal is realistic and finally, find out what this person has done by seeking advice from them. Take that advice to heart and follow it. They have already accomplished what you want to achieve, they know what they're talking about. For myself, I want to do a small show. I am in better shape than probably 90% of the people just walking the streets and probably 95% of the guys my age (40). But, put me in a room with some of the guys on this board and there are alot of people I can learn from because around here I may be just better than average. When I ask quadsweep for advice and he gives it, I follow it. The reason I follow it is because the guy is a freak and knows alot more than I do. Listen to the people giving you advice bro, there is nobody on this board that doesn't want to see all of their fellow bro's succeed.
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good post....
 
I'm new here and I thought I might have something to add but first I have some questions. My first question is how long have you been working this program? Have you considered upping your weights and lowering your reps? Have you considered a program where you have an arms day rather then a bicep day?
 
i used to do 2 muscles a day and not 1 and would not do 2 muscles in the same group say chest and tris because you do your chest and then wen u wanna go work out tri's there already half dead and you dont get as good as a work out, I did use to do chest and bi's cause you basically dont use them with each other in a work out excersise,

Chest bi
Back and tris
shoulders and traps(this i would put together cuz there isnt much trap excersies)

once again i would like to say i had surgery on my leg and i can barely work them out so thats alot of weight off from them, i would prob have 15-25 more pounds of weight if i worked my legs out harder.
 
Use 500mg of Test weekly for your first cycle, but for godsake, read the stickies on training on this forum!!! You'd never see any really beef guys doing a bicep day like that, or even having a day dedicated to biceps. And check your diet like you've been told, it's all very well consuming everything in sight, just watch me smoke a reefer and I'll empty my fridge, it's completely pointless and you're wasting your money if they're not quality calories though i.e High Protein Foods, Quality Complex Carbohydrates, all this information is on this site mate, just have a look round.
 
Nelson Montana said:
No such thing. There isn't a person alive who can't gain weight by adding more calories. Whenever someone says they can't gain weight it's because they don't eat enough. Every time. Always.

This is typical of the most misguided advice around -- using drugs as the first resort instead of the last.

Eat more. Train more. You can make amazing gains with supplements alone.

Roids are for those who have paid their dues.
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i disagree.obviously you have more knowledge and experience than me in the game but i tried for over a year to gain weight i tried everything. i tried healthy eating high protein diet high fat diets i basically never went hungry i was stuffed all the time and i never put on more than a pound or 2. then i did my first cycle and after 12-16 weeks i gained a stone!! i was very happy and now 15 weeks after pct i havent lost a pound! im happy with the results i got from steroids :)
 
lol at analshop. i think i know what that is spoofing. bro you need a good cardio and diet routine. fuck roids at that weight
 
lilj888 said:
Well when i said i eat anything in sight i wasnt talkn bout whoppers and fries cuz those are barely in my sight cuz i never go to them, I eat good and semi good food but not pure shitty food.

Ill give u my Bicept routine for today

Warm up the bis with light weight

5sets of preacher curls- 40x10, 50x10,60x10, 70x8, 80x3 I got stronger in this so i wasnt expecting to do 3 sets of 10

3sets of reverse curls- 30x12,40x10,50x8

3sets of standing dumbell curls- 20x10(per arm), 25x8, 30x7

3 sets of Hammer dumbell curls- 20x10, 25x8, 30x8

3 sets of standing barbell curls(started to die out)-40x10, 50x8, 60x4
and
3 sets of reverse curls on pully machine- 30x12, 50x10, 70x6

I put my weekest areas of the muscle up in the begining then i do the stronger at the end.

Anyway i think i just need a good roid i know ima take one no matter what i just want to know what would be the best choice for me.
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I can tell you one thing, you're overtraining your biceps by a lot. Hell bodybuilders that have beeen on gear for years might not do that many sets for a small bodypart such as bis. That might possible be your biggest problem here, you might want to back off of so many sets per bodypart and see how your body responds, definitly up the calories, get plenty of rest during the week, maybe take 2 days a week off to grow and rest, you might be surprised with the results.
 
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