Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I'm taking 100mg of helladrol plus 300mg of katanadrol a day, I just started today. So far i've taken 4 katanadol caps, and 2 helladrol. I JUST WOKE UP beacuse it made me that fuckin tired. Whats with this stuff?? I put RS-transderm on this morning as someone suggested to combat the lethargy but it didn't do a thing. Can someone please help me because I have a few bottles of this stuff and don't want to have to throw it away. And please don't say "take caffeine pills" or something because I was under the impression I wouldn't have to take something to keep me from falling asleep.
Helladroll/Katanadrol junk??
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Did you do your research on lethargy before starting?
I dont believe one day one lethargy kicked in though.
I dont believe one day one lethargy kicked in though.
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psizzle_8
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Are you spacing out the doses?
Interesting...did you front load your Transderm for a couple of weeks prior to starting Hella/Katana? I have no idea why you would get such extreme lethargy on day 1...don't throw them away, and no you shouldn't have to take stims to fight off lethargy. I would just relax and see how your body reacts in the next couple of days...getting enough sleep? Drinking enough water? Did you train today? Just checking all bases...
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freakshow85
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That's odd. Helladrol @ 100mg a day didn't cause any lethargy until mid week 5 and week 6 for me, and took really until week 2.5-3 to start giving me strength. But I haven't stacked it with Katana yet, but it doesn't seem like you would notice that on day one.
Oh man, when I saw this stupid ass thread title in my car I was just fucking itching to get to work to get on a computer and respond to this shit...
bro, you asked me for advice on pm's and i never told you to start at 100 mg... i told you on week 4 to go to 100... some of the most experienced users don't start at 100... that's just the start...
you wanted to run dbol in your pct and proviron... i mean bro seriously?
and you make a thread with a title like this after ONE FUCKING DAY? ONE FUCKING DAY? are you serious??? really???
have you ever ran a cycle before? ONE DAY?? ONE DAY?? ONE DAY?? ONE DAY?? do you know how absurd that sounds... one of the side effects of helladrol is lethargy even though many do not ever experience that it is a possibility but not after one day... are you spacing out your dosing properly???? did you even bother to ask??
let me tell you, making a thread with a title like this is not going to go over well at all... its got me fucking irate... and im sure it will others... this is not the way to go about things, by calling things that are prvoen to be extremely effective, junk...
if you had a concern or wanted some advice you should have gone about it completely different... you just simply sound neurotic complaining about one day... i just can't get over it... one fucking day... wow!
bro, you asked me for advice on pm's and i never told you to start at 100 mg... i told you on week 4 to go to 100... some of the most experienced users don't start at 100... that's just the start...
you wanted to run dbol in your pct and proviron... i mean bro seriously?
and you make a thread with a title like this after ONE FUCKING DAY? ONE FUCKING DAY? are you serious??? really???
have you ever ran a cycle before? ONE DAY?? ONE DAY?? ONE DAY?? ONE DAY?? do you know how absurd that sounds... one of the side effects of helladrol is lethargy even though many do not ever experience that it is a possibility but not after one day... are you spacing out your dosing properly???? did you even bother to ask??
let me tell you, making a thread with a title like this is not going to go over well at all... its got me fucking irate... and im sure it will others... this is not the way to go about things, by calling things that are prvoen to be extremely effective, junk...
if you had a concern or wanted some advice you should have gone about it completely different... you just simply sound neurotic complaining about one day... i just can't get over it... one fucking day... wow!
Dylan pretty much said it...
Always do your homework and research before jumping on these compounds, and keep your expectations and reality in check. Definitely don't need people bashing products that they have no idea how to properly use and have no business messing with in the first place
Always do your homework and research before jumping on these compounds, and keep your expectations and reality in check. Definitely don't need people bashing products that they have no idea how to properly use and have no business messing with in the first place
Oooh...hit a nerve, take a breath D.
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Is there something in the water lately? Bro this is dylans specialty. If he gave you dosing advice. Free advice i might add. You should really listen to him. My knowledge base is more in aas. If i was going to run a ph cycle i would ask dylan to design it. Bro has done so much research and testing on his own self he could save you alot of problems. Man you really ought to man up. Change your thread title to i was given advice and didn't follow it so now im fucked up.
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Actually I took beast and katana before. 2 caps of beast and 6 of katana daily and I didn't feel this shitty, I thought hella was supposed to be milder then beast
Just started taking transderm today with it. Also if you read my fucking post you would see I said I got hear tired sides after only taking my first dose. Not 100mg of hella and 300 of katana. I took it with 2 bowls of oatmeal and fruit so I figured I had the carb thing covered
Just started taking transderm today with it. Also if you read my fucking post you would see I said I got hear tired sides after only taking my first dose. Not 100mg of hella and 300 of katana. I took it with 2 bowls of oatmeal and fruit so I figured I had the carb thing covered
Did a 6 week Helladrol/Katanadrol cycle at the end of last summer. No test, no transaderm, nothing with it. I had absolutely ZERO lethargy running these 2 compounds together, and that was in a severe calorie and carbohydrate deficit.
Dosing was the same all 6 weeks: Karanadrol 200mg daily
Helladrol 150mg daily
Dosing was the same all 6 weeks: Karanadrol 200mg daily
Helladrol 150mg daily
Hmmm. Oddly enough this thread may have sparked me to try this combo lol. Jester i'll pm.
Mike or Scott, the initial reaction you took was accusation and it should have been seeking assistance. To begin with your thread title should have been "Feel overly lethargic from Hella/Katana?" or "Any thoughts on Hella/Katana reaction".... lol sheezz.
LOLLL hit the nail on the head...
i know that i reacted angrily but its just so damn frustrating to see this title for this thread... i mean fuck... these are two of the most successful ph's out there that have done so much for so many people... Tht title of this thread is just so wrong for starters... For second, and i think i said it enough in my original post, ONE DAY? Bro, come on... Did you ever think that its possibly something else?? If you ran fucking beast, which is 1000 times stronger than hella and you didn't have these problems then its not hella that made you lethargic... ESPECIALLY if you had only 50 mg in your body... So please, in the future, be patient and be smarter about how you title your threads...
needingJuice
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Haha thank god Dylan said I was about to say starting at 100mg the first day is a little much...why did no one catch that earlier lol?
that was the first thing i noticed... some of the most experienced users don't start that high... i wouldn't even start that high...
Feel free bro. I still have the cycle completely laid out, exactly as I did it. Would be more than happy to forward it along.
Thank you sir or princess which ever you are but you just made my day. Yah those must be the new "one day cycles" 25lbs of lean muscle in 24hrs. This is pathetic, you would diss these product when clearly your the problem. Do your research!!! But continue to your cycles its amusing. Oh this just in!!! people are reporting great pct cycles with only 10 A-50's a day. Thanks again.
Helladrol and Katana have proven ingredients broham. I have seen all too often people saying a designer PH is junk but its never the case. Why would a company want you to buy a junk Supp? That means less business in the future. Now, the home brewed test you bought out of a guys garage, call that junk if you want. The 8 week oral cycle you bought out of a Muscle Mag, call that junk.
That will be commonly accepted.
If anything is junk, I am going to bet it is the person's diet, training, and lifestyle, not the PH.
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That will be commonly accepted.
If anything is junk, I am going to bet it is the person's diet, training, and lifestyle, not the PH.
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King Leonidas
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So Dylan, Not to hijack, but I think my question could be helpful since we're are discussing these two compounds.
May I ask what your recommended cycle was for both these products?
I'm currently in week 4 of 200mg weekly Test Cyp. I was thinking of adding Katana/Hella as a cut for the last 6 weeks of the run.
May I ask what your recommended cycle was for both these products?
I'm currently in week 4 of 200mg weekly Test Cyp. I was thinking of adding Katana/Hella as a cut for the last 6 weeks of the run.
absolutely....
hella 75/75/75/100/100/125
katana 350/350/400/400/450/450
transaderm 5 pumps a day (or you could use HCGenerate during cycle and save transaderm for a beast cycle)
n2guard
fish oil
forma stanzol - start mid cycle and run through PCT
creatine nitrate
PCT
torem 90/60/60/30
Unleashed
pes anabeta
need2slin
lean xtreme
creatine nitrate
forma stanzol...
King Leonidas
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Thank you.
The only thing on your list that I've not researched is Torem.
Where may I find this?
ConanX
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I suggest you either
A) cut back on the dose
B) take caffeine/stims
We all react differently. Some people are hyper on tren. I can sleep all day long when I am on tren. We're all different. Listen to your body and cut back on the dose...or be hardcore and just throw in some stimulants and ride it out lol.
A) cut back on the dose
B) take caffeine/stims
We all react differently. Some people are hyper on tren. I can sleep all day long when I am on tren. We're all different. Listen to your body and cut back on the dose...or be hardcore and just throw in some stimulants and ride it out lol.
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