Helladrol cycle setup

[Lefty78]

Hey guys, finally getting ready to start my Hdrol cycle in about a week or so. Already started preloading with AI Life Support.
Please critique and share thoughts. I'm 34, 5'10", 170 lbs and this will be my second cycle ever. Did one Hdrol run about 3 years ago. I'm shooting for gaining 15 lbs.

1-6 AI Life Support
1-6 creatine
1-6 Hdrol. 50/75/75/75/75/100

Pct
6-10 forma (5 pumps am/ 5 pumps pm)
7-10 torem 120 x3 days/90/60/60/30
7-10 Daa
7-10 long jack/ fenugreek

Taking the basic multi, glutamine, bcaa's, whey protein throughout.

 

[joonp]

Ai life support? Is that a methyl 17 protection? Im 3 weeks in on my helladrol cycle and very happy. Up 8 lbs of solid muscle. Good luck

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[Lefty78]

No, AI life support (I got a good deal on it) has Hawthorne berry, milk thistle, saw palmetto, and a couple other things in it. It's basically just for liver support and bp health.

 

[Biglebowski1]

Any downsides?

 

[RickRock13]

I would consider bumping the dosage of Helladrol to 100 in the 3rd week.

Also N2guard would be much better option for cycle support.


What does your diet look like for this cycle?

 

[Lefty78]

Yeah I'm looking at N2 guard, its just they were on Backorder when I was trying to stock up. I might revisit it though.
2 questions, should I run liver support during pct or am I good?
Also, does my forma look good when I have it? I'm thinking only 2 or 3 pumps twice a day as it might be overkill on the estrogen with the Torem?

 

[RickRock13]

Yeah I'm looking at N2 guard, its just they were on Backorder when I was trying to stock up. I might revisit it though.
2 questions, should I run liver support during pct or am I good?
Also, does my forma look good when I have it? I'm thinking only 2 or 3 pumps twice a day as it might be overkill on the estrogen with the Torem?

I always do 5 pumps twice per day with Forma in PCT.

Liver support in PCT is a good idea to help your liver enzyme values return to normal quicker, and also to help counteract the toxicity from SERMs.

 

[Lefty78]

Thanks Rick rock, one last question for now, if I do 5 pumps am/pm, I've read I should taper it down each week. Is that correct?
Also, at what point should I start forma, week 7 with pct?

 

[dylangemelli]

i start forma week 3-10 on helladrol... i never taper... there is no need for that... follow ricks advice on dosing

run helladrol 75/75/75/100/100/125

50 is a fucking waste of a week...

 

[Lefty78]

One change I might be making is switching creatine to pct instead of on cycle.

 

[Lefty78]

Couple more questions guys:

If I get Liv 52 for extra caution, should I run this weeks 1-10 or just in pct since I already have cycle support?

Also, if I typically workout around 1 or 2 pm, how should I times dosing? Does it really matter if I take hdrol right before workout or will it be in my system so ting doesn't matter?

 

[Lefty78]

Damn this sucks, just as I got over the flu 2 weeks ago I'm coming down with a cold today. Going to wait until healthy to start this but hopefully in a few days.

 

[Jbranken]

Save creatine for pct, like you said. The liv52 is overkill IMO. One liver ptoection supp will suffice. Hella isn't nearly as harsh as other compounds as far as toxicity. Dose your liver guard a couple hours after each hella dose, not at the same time. Here's how I dose my hella. 1 dose upon waking with breakfast, largest dose with pre workout meal, then one dose PM with meal

 

[Lefty78]

What's the half life of helladrol? 12 hours?
Just wondering if they really need to be paced out as close to 12 hours between dosing or not.

 

[Jbranken]

You could dose it twice ED if you want. I just like getting the extra dose in pre w/o. Whatever works For you

 

[st3760]

Def try to get n2guard. Great product. Follow Dylan's advice on the dosage. That's exactly what I did with dylan's advice and it was a great run. Just dose the hella and n2guard around 4hrs apart. Good luck.