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I realize the answer is 'No', but;

I am coming to the end of week four (of six) and I have a wedding this weekend. Would it be too dangerous to stop the Helladrol Thursday night for having a few (four-six) beers on Saturday and start it again Monday ie. three days off?
 
I realize the answer is 'No', but;

I am coming to the end of week four (of six) and I have a wedding this weekend. Would it be too dangerous to stop the Helladrol Thursday night for having a few (four-six) beers on Saturday and start it again Monday ie. three days off?

That's just silly to stop it and start it.

I will probably get chastised for this, but one night will not be the end of you. Helladrol is fairly mild as it is.

I'm not advocating this AT ALL. But if it is unavoidable, then go for it. You'll be fine.
 
I had a couple beers while on it. Even if it is mild pretty sure you shouldn't drink on it, I wouldn't drink while on it again.

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2 beers vs. 6 beers is a big difference.

my answer is absolutely not to either. if you stop it then it will still be in your system days after you stop which means your liver is still working it out.

is it the end of the world to go to a wedding and not drink? have some sparkling water instead and pretend
 
+1...I spent all of last weekend in bars in Nashville...Red Bull in a pint glass looks just like a beer...and I'm not even on

And who the hell cares what anyone thinks anyway??????
 
Yup end of the world? Definitely not. Any cycle I run I stay away from alcohol, even when I'm not cyclying. Alcohol just makes you feel like shit overall....






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+1...I spent all of last weekend in bars in Nashville...Red Bull in a pint glass looks just like a beer...and I'm not even on

And who the hell cares what anyone thinks anyway??????

He cares apparently.

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i went to my best friends wedding a few years back on the beach. his wife was a young chick out of college who brung all her sorority gf's. my friend brung his entire frat ... was it a bunch of people on the beach getting wasted? no. the guys were in their 30's.. the girls were in their 20's.. we hooked up with each other yes, but there wasn't very much drinking if at all.. when it came time for pics at the after party half of us just held up the drink and pretended lol. the others took a sip and then threw it out.
 
That's just silly to stop it and start it.

I will probably get chastised for this, but one night will not be the end of you. Helladrol is fairly mild as it is.

I'm not advocating this AT ALL. But if it is unavoidable, then go for it. You'll be fine.

I actually agree with you on this bro. Just be sensible. I wouldn't stop it either. Drinking one day in moderation isn't going to kill you. Me and the old lady have went out a night or two while I was on a cycle of orals a time or two and last time I checked I lived
 
If you think 6 beers is a "few" you have bigger problems than we can help you with.

if you choose to be an enhanced bodybuilder who uses oral steroids, you don't drink alcohol. End of discussion

Man up and make a choice if you want to be a athlete or a frat boy.
 
If you think 6 beers is a "few" you have bigger problems than we can help you with.

if you choose to be an enhanced bodybuilder who uses oral steroids, you don't drink alcohol. End of discussion

Man up and make a choice if you want to be a athlete or a frat boy.

^^^^ Post of the year
 
If you think 6 beers is a "few" you have bigger problems than we can help you with.

if you choose to be an enhanced bodybuilder who uses oral steroids, you don't drink alcohol. End of discussion

Man up and make a choice if you want to be a athlete or a frat boy.
You're obviously a boring loser. Nothing wrong with a few beers to celebrate a mates wedding.
 
You're obviously a boring loser. Nothing wrong with a few beers to celebrate a mates wedding.

You need to check yourself bro, Nelson's absolutely right with everything he said in that comment.

Alcohol is an awful substance bro. Just an fyi alcohol consumption in moderation is more damaging to the body then crack usage in moderation.
 
You need to check yourself bro, Nelson's absolutely right with everything he said in that comment.

Alcohol is an awful substance bro. Just an fyi alcohol consumption in moderation is more damaging to the body then crack usage in moderation.

If factoring in alcohol-related accidents, I'd agree. But having 2-3 beers over a weekend or a glass of wine with a meal is no where near as harmful as crack use. And there is no such thing as crack use in moderation.

However, I'd still refrain from alcohol use while on cycle or during PCT. It just seems counterproductive.
 
You're obviously a boring loser. Nothing wrong with a few beers to celebrate a mates wedding.

not the answer you want to hear so you attack.

if you can't handle a straight answer don't ask the question. otherwise why did you even post a question on here? i guess you wanted a couple guys to pat you on the back and tell you its okay so you can go out and get wasted.

and Nelson is 100% right.. you seem to be too immature to use steroids, and it has nothing to do with your original post. its just by your attitude. i will give you some advice, EF is a hardcore fitness site.. a lot of us are going to be upfront and frank with you. in real life a lot of times parents and friends will coddle you, and this is whats wrong with this world. the same way parents convince their kids the tooth fairy will leave you money under your pillow.
 
If factoring in alcohol-related accidents, I'd agree. But having 2-3 beers over a weekend or a glass of wine with a meal is no where near as harmful as crack use. And there is no such thing as crack use in moderation.

However, I'd still refrain from alcohol use while on cycle or during PCT. It just seems counterproductive.

No, believe it or not the equivalence of 2-3 beers in crack is less damaging to the body then the 2-3 beers.
 
What is the beer/crack equivalent? Crack and heroin causes almost instant addition. Addicts live only for the next fix while - drinker may only have a few alcoholic drinks a week. I've read several studies regarding alcohol being the most harmful of all drugs but that accounts for the harm that alcohol causes to those around the drinker. The individual harm from cocaine, heroin, an meth use is far worse.
 
Beer improves blood vessel health. Moderate beer consumption improves blood vessel health and protects against heart attack and stroke according to a study from the University of Athens in Greece. Researchers measured the effects of drinking beer, vodka, and non-alcoholic beer or water on blood vessel stiffness and the function of the cells lining the blood vessels (endothelium). Beer and vodka reduced blood vessel stiffness by 9%. Cell health was only improved following beer consumption. The authors speculated that beer protects the cells from free radicals--chemicals produced naturally during metabolism that cause cell damage.

~ JohnyCoolNuts ~
 
What is the beer/crack equivalent? Crack and heroin causes almost instant addition. Addicts live only for the next fix while - drinker may only have a few alcoholic drinks a week. I've read several studies regarding alcohol being the most harmful of all drugs but that accounts for the harm that alcohol causes to those around the drinker. The individual harm from cocaine, heroin, an meth use is far worse.

Well first off I only said crack not any of the others, don't put words in my mouth I didn't say. Let me also make it clear I do not condone crack usage or alcohol usage because they are both damaging to the body. Now i wasn't saying anything about addictive factor I was purely referring to effect on the body and the equivalence in crack of alcohol consumed is less damaging to the body. That goes to show you the real danger behind consuming alcohol.
 
How about beer after weight training? In the late 1800's weightlifting gyms were often set up in the back room of saloons. Men would lift weights and drink beer. Fallout from the temperance movement and Prohibition linked beer drinking to sin and unhealthy living. Recent research has found the opposite: moderate alcohol consumption increases longevity and improves cardiovascular health. A study from the University of North Texas led by Jakob Vingren found that alcohol consumption (1.09 grams of grain ethanol per kilogram of bodyweight) following weight training increased free and total testosterone by about 20%. Other studies have found a relationship between elevated testosterone levels and muscle growth. Drinking a couple of beers after a workout might be a good idea. (Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise, 45: 1825-2013)

~ JohnyCoolNuts ~
 
Nothing wrong with having a few beers on occasion whether you're on cycle or not.
Just don't get wasted and make a habit of it and you'll be fine bro...
 
Well first off I only said crack not any of the others, don't put words in my mouth I didn't say. Let me also make it clear I do not condone crack usage or alcohol usage because they are both damaging to the body. Now i wasn't saying anything about addictive factor I was purely referring to effect on the body and the equivalence in crack of alcohol consumed is less damaging to the body. That goes to show you the real danger behind consuming alcohol.

Didn't put words in your mouth - simply made a statement about crack, heroin and meth.

I'm still curious to know how much crack is equivalent to one beer. One hit of crack can cause anxiety, panic, depression, increased heart rate, hallucinations, heart attack, stroke, seizure, and respiratory failure. It's often mixed with substances that release toxic fumes when heated.

One beer won't even cause a buzz in most people.

I don't get the comparison but maybe one beer more harmful to the body than crack because it is equivalent to such a small amount of crack that it's not usable and/or produces no side effects.

I'd gladly eat crow if you can post up a link.
 
Well first off I only said crack not any of the others, don't put words in my mouth I didn't say. Let me also make it clear I do not condone crack usage or alcohol usage because they are both damaging to the body. Now i wasn't saying anything about addictive factor I was purely referring to effect on the body and the equivalence in crack of alcohol consumed is less damaging to the body. That goes to show you the real danger behind consuming alcohol.

Hard time convincing me I should trade my beer coozy for a crack pipe for my health. I think we can agree though that alcohol on cycle, especially with orals, is a bad idea.
 
You're obviously a boring loser. Nothing wrong with a few beers to celebrate a mates wedding.

You wanna try to attack NELSON MONTANA?

If you only knew how lucky you were to have this man tell you how it is.
 
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