HEART Condition while juicing

[R1 Psycho]

Hey everyone,

Been a long while since I last posted on here.. My career & family took the front seat in my life for the last few years...

Anyways, I am hoping to find some advise concerning a pretty specific heart condition that someone I know has.

He is otherwise a very healthy 26 yr old male.

He suffers from
Supraventricular Tachycardia of the Reentrant variety.
He mentioned to me that is doesn't seem to be caused by stimulants, and only happens once every 2 years or so.

Now of course here comes the big question:
He wants to try his 1st cycle, and turned to me as I can facilitate this happening.

I have advised him to go talk to his doctor, or a doctor that he feels comfortable with regarding taking steroids with his heart condition.

I also said that I would post these questions here as I know in the past there have been some extremely knowledgeable people on here (some doctors etc) that could possibly shed some additional information on this. Maybe even share experiences etc.

I have designed many friends cycles before, and have done my homework in regards to properly and safely cycling.
This obviously is new territory to me.
If he didn't have this condition, I would be simply setting him up with a simple beginners cycle of Test @ 500mg/week for 8 - 10 week with a straightforward PCT in place.

He has been asking me about the use of T-Bol as well, so possibly considering adding that too.

Also would be highly recommending a full blood panel before and after the use of AAS.

Are there any doctors on here that could help answer this big question??

AGAIN, my advice to him is to talk to his GP, 1st and foremost, BUT I do feel its worth while posting here too.

Thank you all in advance for any/all information.

Cheers,
R1...

 

[-SD-]

I have advised him to go talk to his doctor, or a doctor that he feels comfortable with regarding taking steroids with his heart condition.

Not going to happen. Do you honestly think any doctor would say its ok to take steroids when hes got a heart condition??? LOL

Imagine the liability on the doctor who gave the OK for a guy to take steroids with a heart condition.

 

[R1 Psycho]

Yes, I hear ya... and this is to be expected...unfortunate though..

Does anyone else have anything to add here?
My final advise to him will be to research the hell out of this, talk to as many doctors as possible, and then ultimately the decision is his.
As for myself, well I think I would choose to avoid AAS altogether.

Anyone?

 

[R1 Psycho]

What I mean by unfortunate is that its most likely going to be very difficult to get a completely honest answer stating only cold hard facts, rather than opinion based information.
Thanks again..

 

[-SD-]

Yes, I hear ya... and this is to be expected...unfortunate though..

Does anyone else have anything to add here?
My final advise to him will be to research the hell out of this, talk to as many doctors as possible, and then ultimately the decision is his.
As for myself, well I think I would choose to avoid AAS altogether.

Anyone?

What else is there to say, he should avoid roids altogether. These arent vitamins we deal with here, they are strong drugs with lots of ramifications. And thats if youre perfectly healthy. A heart condition is one of the worst ailments anyone could have before using roids.

 

[R1 Psycho]

Ok guys, point taken....100%
With a small amount of time to think about this, it's pretty clear...Could not agree more!

My advice to him will be to completely forget about taking steroids. And if he were to try pursuing it further, it won't be through me.

Cheers guys..

 

[joeblow12345]

Ya I dont think its smart for anyone with a heart condition to use steroids or any drug. Talk him out of it.


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[RADAR]

Here is what is happining and a few suggestions along with it.



Paroxysmal supraventricular tachycardia (PSVT) is episodes of rapid heart rate that start in a part of the heart above the ventricles. "Paroxysmal" means from time to time.

Causes, incidence, and risk factors
Normally, the chambers of the heart (atria and ventricles) contract in a coordinated manner.

The contractions are caused by an electrical signal that begins in an area of the heart called the sinoatrial node (also called the sinus node or SA node).

The signal moves through the upper heart chambers (the atria) and tells the atria to contract.

After this, the signal moves down in the heart and tells the lower chambers (the ventricles) to contract.

The rapid heart rate from PSVT may start with events that take place in many different areas above the lower heart chambers (ventricles).

PSVT can occur with digitalis toxicity and with conditions such as Wolff-Parkinson-White syndrome.

The condition occurs most often in young people and infants.

The following increase your risk for PSVT:

Alcohol use

Caffeine use

Illicit drug use ****** includes Steroids

Smoking

Symptoms
Symptoms usually start and stop suddenly, and can last for a few minutes or several hours. They can include:

Anxiety

Chest tightness

Palpitations (a sensation of feeling the heart beat), often with an irregular or fast rate (racing)

Rapid pulse

Shortness of breath

Other symptoms that can occur with this condition:

Dizziness

Fainting

Signs and tests
A physical examination during a PSVT episode will show a rapid heart rate. It may also show bounding pulses in the neck.

The heart rate may be over 100, and even more than 250 beats per minute . In children, the heart rate tends to be very high. There may be signs of poor blood circulation such as light-headedness. Between episodes of PSVT, the heart rate is normal (60 to 100 bpm).

An ECG during symptoms shows PSVT. An electrophysiology study (EPS) may be needed for an accurate diagnosis and to recommend the best treatment.

Because PSVT comes and goes, to diagnose it patients may need to wear a 24-hour Holter monitor. For longer periods of time, another tape of the rhythm recording device may be used.

Treatment
If you do not have symptoms or any other heart condition, PSVT may not need treatment.

If you have an episode of PSVT, there are techniques you can try on your own to interrupt the fast heartbeat.

One is called the Valsalva maneuver. To do this, you hold your breath and strain, as if you were trying to have a bowel movement.

Another technique you can try is to cough while sitting with your upper body bent forward.

Some people find that splashing ice water on the face is helpful.

You should avoid smoking, caffeine, alcohol, and illicit drugs.

Emergency treatment to slow the heartbeat back to normal may include:

Electrical cardioversion, the use of electric shock

Medicines through a vein

Long-term treatment for people who have repeat episodes of PSVT, or who also have heart disease, may include:

Cardiac ablation -- a procedure used to destroy small areas in your heart that may be causing the rapid heartbeat (currently the treatment of choice for most PSVTs)

Daily medications to prevent repeat episodes

Pacemakers to override the fast heartbeat (on occasion may be used in children with PSVT who have not responded to any other treatment)

Surgery to change the pathways in the heart that send electrical signals (this may be recommended in some cases for people who need other heart surgery)

Expectations:
PSVT is generally not life threatening. If other heart disorders are present, it can lead to congestive heart failure or angina.


Call your health care provider if:

You often have a sensation of feeling the heart beat quickly and symptoms do not end on their own in a few minutes

You have a history of PSVT and an episode does not go away with the Valsalva maneuver or by coughing, or other symptoms occur with the rapid heart rate

Symptoms return often

New symptoms develop


I hope this info has been helpful. sorry to also say he is not a prime candidate to use steroids unless this condition is corrected.

 

[adsinaction]

NO WAY. I cant even tell you what I had to go through to get on TRT just because my family had a history of heart disease. I had to get a battery of tests, heart complete blood work etc and Im VERY healthy.