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is it sufficient? or do i still need something like nolva or chlomid?
is this a preference thing? or safety?
really don't mind changing it up if its going to give a better chance of avoiding problems
yea,
2x250mg for 12 weeks
HCGenerate on
have some dex in case
then following the instructions on the pct stack
bridge after
Here is a good cycle and PCT for you:
D-spark 1cap/day
HCGenerate ES 3 caps AM/2 pre-workout
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM
PCT: 4 weeks
kick start (2 weeks): HCGenerate - 2 caps AM/1 post workout/1 PM
+ d-spark 1cap/ED
Clomid 50/25/25/25
arimidex 0.25mgs EOD
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM
D-spark 1cap/day
HCGenerate ES 3 caps AM/2 pre-workout
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM
PCT: 4 weeks
kick start (2 weeks): HCGenerate - 2 caps AM/1 post workout/1 PM
+ d-spark 1cap/ED
Clomid 50/25/25/25
arimidex 0.25mgs EOD
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM
did you mean ED?
I will be adding adex .25mg EOD during PCT week 1-4 based on your suggestion
kinda was hoping this would have been an OK replacement for clomid...
1-4 Forma Stanzol - 5 pumps rubbed on your chest 2 times a day morning and night.
1-4 Forged Post Cycle - 2 capsules 2 times a day morning and night.
1-4 adex .25mg EOD
2-6 Power Chews D-Test - 1 full dose every morning.
5-6 Forma Stanzol - 3 pumps rubbed on your chest 2 times a day morning and night.
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EOD, you don't want to overdo with AIs. Your PCT isn't the best choice, check the one I posted and go with it.
Actually, there is zero scientific evidence that clomid or HCG does anything to restore HPTA function permanently. It's all speculation based on studies that are SIMILAR to being suppressed from steroids,..but not exactly. (There have been a handful of studies with steroid users but they not one of them follows up after cessation of use, which as far as I'm concerned, is just half of the story.)
That speculation has been parroted for years by "gurus" and then regurgitated by the followers of such misinformation.
Personally, I think clomid is not only useless, it causes way too many negative side effects in too many people to even chance using it.
I do like HCG for the simple fact that it gets LH production up after being suppress. This does not last but it gives a little head start to PCT and the body recovering on its own -- which in the end, it has to do.
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My thoughts?
Alter.
Remember when N2 used to do that? The alter would have the same poor grammar, dialect etc. Has anyone seen or heard from him recently?
Alter.
Remember when N2 used to do that? The alter would have the same poor grammar, dialect etc. Has anyone seen or heard from him recently?
Yup, there are some evidence, but it's clearly going to work better with HCGenerate.
Yup, there are some evidence, but it's clearly going to work better with HCGenerate.
HCGenerate is best on cycle to stave off suppression. I can't see how it would make Clomid work any better.
Who's the alter? What's the motivation? It was a question about clomid. (Yes, needto's grammar and spelling were a little rough. lol)
Considering dropping the OTC pct and running clomid:
While ON: HCGenerate 3 caps AM/2 pre-workout
PCT: 4 weeks
kick start (2 weeks): HCGenerate - 2 caps AM/1 post workout/1 PM
Clomid 50/25/25/25
arimidex 0.25mgs EOD
3 Questions if you will:
1. Is this looking better?
2. Run clomid as above or 50/50/50/50?
3. If I run .25mg ED ON will I need to raise the PCT adex values in order to be effective?
Thanks again, still learning alot here.
While ON: HCGenerate 3 caps AM/2 pre-workout
PCT: 4 weeks
kick start (2 weeks): HCGenerate - 2 caps AM/1 post workout/1 PM
Clomid 50/25/25/25
arimidex 0.25mgs EOD
3 Questions if you will:
1. Is this looking better?
2. Run clomid as above or 50/50/50/50?
3. If I run .25mg ED ON will I need to raise the PCT adex values in order to be effective?
Thanks again, still learning alot here.
An HCGenerate kickstart for a PCT would help with recovery, just as it staves off suppression during the cycle.
Now that HCGenerate ES is here, using ES during the cycle and keeping regular HCGenerate for PCT is best.
northernknight
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same here. Remember a few years back when Nolva was always preferred over Clomid? Right here on this very board even! LOL!
Funny how things change.
An HCGenerate kickstart for a PCT would help with recovery, just as it staves off suppression during the cycle.
I know that, I was asking how clomid made it better.
I can't understand anyone liking nolva since all it does is prevent gyno -- temporarily. It can actually cause a s rebound of estrogen. other than that, it lessens gains, supresses libido, can cause nausea and lethargy, lowers IGF, potentially causes blood clots which can lead to stroke and increase the risk of cataracts.
Yeah...great stuff.
Not that I am a fan of tamoxifen, but the same negative things we say about nolva can be said almost about every product out there - including health supplements. Think about the myriad of untested supplements, AIs and SERMs out there or the range of SARMs, some of which are linked to cancer. There is room for everything in a cycle, as long as used correctly with proper monitoring and timing.
p.s. when we say tamox 'supresses' libido and causes other sides, how about steroids we all take? anadrol is linked to liver cancer, and most steroid cycles put hormone profiles out of whack, opening doors for lifetime endocrine system problems. The line of TRT junkies is non-stop due to steroid abuse. Thus, IMO, we are just picking at one product for no reason. In fact, aromasin+nolva PCT is one of the best in the industry.
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