Hcg

[boston789]

I've used HCG for the majoirty of my heavier cycles...well heavy for me. My current cycle is:

1-4 prop 100mg ed
1-16 test cyp 800mg ew
1-16 eq 550mg ew
11-18 var 50 mg ed

Now, I'm not opposed to using it. But could I get away with not using HCG? I mean if I loaded up on nolva and clomid would that do the trick? What do you guys think?

 

[badslinky]

I wouldnt cal that a heavy cycle... youll be ok with out HCG. Now tren, anadrol, deca, I always use HCG.

 

[boston789]

I know to some people it is some it isnt....

 

[badslinky]

Ok let me reword... I could of said it a lil' better. I dont think the use of those particular drugs at those dosages make HCG use a requirement. I dont think maybe some HCG use at the very end would hurt... but by no means do you need to.

 

[badslinky]

by the way, I like that cycle, you getting some good results?

 

[littleb]

It depends on the person, 500 or more mg of test a week and my boys going into hiding within first 4-5 weeks, a little hcg and poof they are back. and for me it really helps recovery .. now i got a friend who has never used it and runs some heavy cycles and never has a problem with the boys leaving or recovery...
I know its not a definite answer either way, everyone reacts different. P.s not too long ago nobody ever used hcg so dont sweat it too bad..

 

[boston789]

I'm on my 5th week...taking 1mg of adex a day...loving it so far...cant wait for the eq to really kick in though.

 

[nydj66]

After an 18 week cycle I would certainly benefit from HCG. That's a long time to have the boys out of commission.

 

[boston789]

If my doses were really high; like 1g ew test and if I had some tren in there I would totally agree with you. Im not taking that high of a dose of EQ...hmmmmmm....anyone else wanna help?

 

[nydj66]

If my doses were really high; like 1g ew test and if I had some tren in there I would totally agree with you. Im not taking that high of a dose of EQ...hmmmmmm....anyone else wanna help?

I'm just telling you that I know from experience that I would have a much better recovery with HCG after a cycle that long.

You're taking 800mg/week of cyp. That's only 20% shy of 1g. Besides, anything more than about 300mg/wk is enough to shut off endogenous testosterone production completely (it happens about 3 weeks into the cycle).

So, after 15 weeks of dormant testicles, I say HCG would help.

 

[bca21]

well you gotta remember were still farely new to hcg so you can go without it. Not everybody in the 90s were on it but i would like to take it if that were me. thats just me

 

[JohnnyWest]

That's quite a while, if it were me I would use it, an extra dew dollars to have a likely faster recovery is worth it to me.

 

[toxicsambo]

I've used HCG for the majoirty of my heavier cycles...well heavy for me. My current cycle is:

1-4 prop 100mg ed
1-16 test cyp 800mg ew
1-16 eq 550mg ew
11-18 var 50 mg ed

Now, I'm not opposed to using it. But could I get away with not using HCG? I mean if I loaded up on nolva and clomid would that do the trick? What do you guys think?

If you look up some HCG threads on here, the vets in the "know" use HCG during thier cycle. Usually half-way through for 2 weeks, than again for PCT. I believe in this philosophy also. I don't care if your balls look normal in the mirror or in your hand, you have no idea whats going on inside. Why the hell would you risk life long testicular problems? PLus HCG is so superior to Nolva and Clomid and have a fraction of the potency of HCG. It only helps to use HCG. Remember, it also helps you keep most of your gains. Ppl tend to forget that.

 

[jagerbombme]

aside from the boys and all that, wouldn't you want to to keep as much gains as possible?

 

[mlong23]

Use it if you have it, otherwise go the clomid + nolva route.

 

[boston789]

Yeah, I'll probably end up using it. I used it on my last test/tren/winny cycle and keep a good amount of my gains......good point....I'm using it.