Hcg

[BigB_79]

I have read so many varying theories about hcg therapy. Some say use it during your cycle and some say use it after. I recently finished clomid therapy after my first cycle and I dont want to go through clomid hell again. Any suggestions

 

[BigB_79]

bump

 

[Dragon14]

HCG = returning testes to normal size. Clomid = restarting natural test production. Two different things.

I've not heard anything bad about doing HCG post or even mid-cycle. To avoid Clomid, though, you need to restart the natural test production somehow (or hope it returns on its own).

Do a search for natural post-cycle therapies. Several people, such as Nelson Montana, advocate natural post-cycle therapy, and have posted "recipes" you might use.

 

[Dragon14]

you can use Nolva post-cycle instead of Clomid.

Are you sure bro? I was under the impression that Nolvadex was only good as an anti-estrogen.

 

[AustinTX]

you can use Nolva post-cycle instead of Clomid.

take HCG 500-1000IU somewhere from twice a week to once every 5 days during the cycle to prevent atrophy (dose depends on your cycle and how hard you shut down...). Studies have shown that post-cycle recovery is faster with the nads up to snuff since they have an increased capacity to begin producing natural Testosterone when they're not atrophied...

Some people prefer larger doses EOD at week 5-6 and at the end of the cycle.

 

[solidspine]

I have used HCG and clomid for post cycle thearpy, and personally see no real reason to use it during my cycle.

If your on gear, once you go off HCG, your nuts will shrink again anyway,

 

[smb_1969]

Here is a link to some good info about post-cylce if you want to use HCG and Clomid.

http://www.anabolicreview.com/offster.php

 

[AustinTX]

Are you sure bro? I was under the impression that Nolvadex was only good as an anti-estrogen.

positive. much study behind it, and that is also the therapy preferred by some HRT docs due to vision problems, etc. with Clomid. Just remember that 20mg of Nolva=50-100mg of Clomid as far as dosage goes.

there will never be a perfect, agreed to by everyone, post-cycle therapy, perfect first cycle, correct use of HCG, etc. But run some searches, Nolva/HCG, and Nolva/Clomid/HCG post-cycle's are used by quite a few people.

 

[AustinTX]

I have used HCG and clomid for post cycle thearpy, and personally see no real reason to use it during my cycle.

If your on gear, once you go off HCG, your nuts will shrink again anyway,

Yep, that's why people take 500-1000IU 1 or 2x a week throughout the cycle, to keep them from shrinking in the first place. If you stop they'll shrink...