Hcg

[dy5]

ok, so i think im gonna start a 8-10 week cycle of sus. im still thinking it over, i found it for a good price, but i dont really want to take anything with it unless i get bad side effects, but ive heard you should take HCG, should i? this is my first and last cycle, so?

 

[The Terminator]

First AND last cycle? I wonder how many guys here said the same thing when they got here...As far as the hcg I like to use it throughout (~500 iu once a week) But you will get ALOT of differing opinions on this, I am just giving you mine...

 

[dy5]

well, what could happen if i didnt take it, no really this is my last cycle, my gf found out i was on sus she would break me, and ive got a SHIT load of (53) fights under my belt, heh so i just want to bulk out, tone it up and be able to lift more.
so i figured one cycle is enough. oh yeah and next year when i start back, i cant have juice in me.

 

[dy5]

so can anyone tell me if i didnt take hcg or clomid, one perhaps like 400 mg maybe 500 mg of sust a week?

 

[dy5]

so it is definatly important to take them? what about just clomid, and maybe 2 weeks of hcg?

 

[Bishop4]

500mg sust a week is good, for 10-12 weeks......then do HCG and clomid post cycle to get yourself back to normal. no big prob. you could do HCG then clomid post....or do HCG during, and clomid only post. up to you. also could use nolva post with clomid too. clomid is cheap and worth it so you don't fuck yourself up. your girl would leave you if you couldn't get it up also.

 

[NFG123]

ok, so i think im gonna start a 8-10 week cycle of sus. im still thinking it over, i found it for a good price, but i dont really want to take anything with it unless i get bad side effects, but ive heard you should take HCG, should i? this is my first and last cycle, so?

Not needed. But it can help. If you want to kick start quickly use it half way through at 1500 iu eod for two weeks. Then start two weeks before you begin clomid again at 1500 iu eod/e3d for three weeks. This dose is high for some, but it has worked well for me.

Good luck buddy,
NFG

 

[Bishop4]

so it is definatly important to take them? what about just clomid, and maybe 2 weeks of hcg?

just clomid is fine. start 2 weeks after your last shot.....do 300mg day one....then 100mg ED the next 6 days....then 2 weeks of 50mg ED. should turn the trick for you.

 

[dy5]

what exactly does it do, i heard if you just drop after a cycle, it can make you lose a lot of mass...so it is good to take hcg, before you stop

 

[Bishop4]

what exactly does it do, i heard if you just drop after a cycle, it can make you lose a lot of mass...so it is good to take hcg, before you stop

HCG is for bringing your balls back up to normal, clomid is supposed to normalize your HTPA (or basically bring your natural test back up to normal). that is a basic explanation. so clomid is considered by most to be the most important of the two. take some nolvadex too, during and post cycle if your gyno prone. just post cycle if your not worried about gyno. but i'd have it handy.

 

[dy5]

how much will my balls go down?

 

[Bishop4]

how much will my balls go down?

i take some outrageous amounts and variety's of drugs and mine never go down. but some guys look at fina and they shrink to peas. you'll have to find out for yourself by personal experience.

 

[DecaBane]

dy5 you and me are looking at same exact situations man, hopefully only going to do one cycle...was planning on doing sust/deca. Came here got good advise did some good research, decided to go with just Sustanon 250 500mg/wk for 10 weeks. After even more research decided to add in clomid on the 13'th week using the schedule that everyone here pretty much posts...

I'm a hard gainer, even with eating alot, and I want to be able to keep quality gains. So clomid will only help me with that, and will bring natural test levels back up, and acts as a mild anti-estrogen so its a win/win/win situation with clomid...let me know how it turns out for you.

 

[bigerisbetter]

Clomid is a must post cycle, but I dont think HCG is neccessary with your amount. Never use HCG and clomid together as they counter act each other.

 

[DecaBane]

I was reading some posts today about people being really depressed on clomid, whats up with that? has anyone else experienced this off of clomid?

 

[Bishop4]

I was reading some posts today about people being really depressed on clomid, whats up with that? has anyone else experienced this off of clomid?

doesn't affect me at all. like a sugar pill (and i've used everything from IP to US pharm quality). everyone is different. so you will have to gauge it yourself. and like stated above, HCG is not totally necessary....but clomid sure is.

 

[NapoleanComplex]

Just finished 500mg/wk of sust for 10 wks. Starting HCG tomorrow. Nuts are 3/4 normal size. HCG @ 500iu for 9 days straight...then waiting about a week and starting clomid and nolv. You might wanna have nolv on hand while running HCG, I heard it can bring some gyno symptoms on.

-------- CYCLE ----------
wk 1-4: dbol/30mg/day
wk 1-10: sust/500mg/wk
-------- POST CYCLE ----------
wk 11-15: nolv
wk 11: HCG/500iu/ED (9 days = 4500iu)
wk 13-15: clomid therapy (300,100,50 you know the drill)

 

[IJ26]

Can u inject HCG intramuscularly. I have no slin pins and when I tried to inject it into fat on my legs the water just ran out.

 

[The Terminator]

Can u inject HCG intramuscularly. I have no slin pins

Yes you can. But wou would be wise to pick up some slin pins for the future (GPZ)...

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

Just finished 500mg/wk of sust for 10 wks. Starting HCG tomorrow. Nuts are 3/4 normal size. HCG @ 500iu for 9 days straight...then waiting about a week and starting clomid and nolv. You might wanna have nolv on hand while running HCG, I heard it can bring some gyno symptoms on.

-------- CYCLE ----------
wk 1-4: dbol/30mg/day
wk 1-10: sust/500mg/wk
-------- POST CYCLE ----------
wk 11-15: nolv
wk 11: HCG/500iu/ED (9 days = 4500iu)
wk 13-15: clomid therapy (300,100,50 you know the drill)

I was wondering if Napolean could update his post therapy and how his body is responding...