HCG will shut down natural LH production??

[Jack steel]

I heard hcg on pct is a bad idea. Due to the fact that it mimics LH to jump start the testes supposedly it can shut down LH production or maybe just suppress it. Does anyone know if this is true?


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[badboybounce]

Considering u take hcg to mimick lh as ur own lh is shut down

 

[stevesmi]

use hcg to kickstart your pct, not during pct. its all about timing.. if you time things right your recovery will be smooth.

 

[eddymerckx]

^^^as usual, steve is 100% correct--timing is everything.

 

[emmerz24]

So is running 250 iu 2x per week from week 4 till pct counter productive or is that still the best way to go

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ guys are finding if they keep the boys down there plump during cycle it makes it easier to recover. so yes run it once you start getting suppression, then up the dose as a kickstart to PCT> what i do cause I like to save the hassle is take 2 caps 2X per day of hcgenerate during cycle, then use hcg to kickstart the cycle this way i only have to mix 1 batch of hcg and not fumble with 2 or 3 batches. hcg does lose potency and plus I get pissed when i leave it out of the fridge my mistake which has happened twice to me. hcgenerate doesn't need to be fridged and won't lose potency

this strategy has cut my recover time more than half.. try it yourself and see, it works

 

[soupeater]

of course, I searched to no avail and then started a thread in the PCT section on exactly what Steve is talking about. Then I see this Question for ya Steve (or anyone else). Going from 250IUs twice weekly on cycle what dose would you use to 'up the dose as a kickstart to PCT'? And what would be the timing of this? Thanks alot

 

[soupeater]

PCT will be Unleashed, Forma, Post Cycle (double dose for the first week of Unleashed)... if that info is needed.

 

[MikeLB333]

When exactly would you kick start with the hcg though??

Like if I was cycling test e when should I kick start the hcg 1 week after my last shot or when pct is started??

I couldn't find an exact enough answer on this when researching

 

[noodles1010]

If you haven't cycled anything to plump em up during cycle (hcgenerate ect) then day of your last shot I would hit 500iu for eod for two weeks and see how u feel.
I just did a test e/ deca/ anavar cycle for 14 weeks and did nothing during and needto put me on a forma, hcgenerate, forged pct and kicked it off with two weeks of hcg 500iu eod for two weeks while running everything else and my boys dropped plumped and never had any sort of prob with my ladies. Everyone's different tho. That's what worked for me and I feel great so far 3 weeks into pct.

 

[calpoly]

so run 500iu EOD for 2 weeks after your last test-e shot?

 

[DtownG]

so run 500iu EOD for 2 weeks after your last test-e shot?

Start week 4 with hcg and run 2 shots at 250iu so that would be 500ius total! Then after your last shot of "juice" for the next 2 weeks leading up to pct mega dose hcg at 1,500ius spread out into 3 shots! I followed this and I'm in my 2 week of pct and feel great with no crash but I also ran HCgenerate with my cycle starting week 2 at 4caps per day!

 

[calpoly]

I raw HCG starting week 2 at 250iu twice a week. I got bloods at week 11 and my LH was almost zero. Steve said I probably got bunk HCG

 

[calpoly]

Do u keep you unconstituted amps in the freezer?

 

[DtownG]

Do u keep you unconstituted amps in the freezer?

No you just store it in a dark dry place and when your ready to add the BAC water then it then has to be refrigerated! Either your HCG was bunk which it sounds like according to your bloods or freezing it which might damage the contents so it would be worthless! You need to get on HCGenerate and double dose that shit ASAP and pick up Unleashed/post cycle and D-AA with the D-AA have it already premixed next to your bed and the minute you wake up chug that shit

 

[stevesmi]

Start week 4 with hcg and run 2 shots at 250iu so that would be 500ius total! Then after your last shot of "juice" for the next 2 weeks leading up to pct mega dose hcg at 1,500ius spread out into 3 shots! I followed this and I'm in my 2 week of pct and feel great with no crash but I also ran HCgenerate with my cycle starting week 2 at 4caps per day!

I can tell you have been following my advice... this strategy works well and does make a huge difference.

since its a 5000iu batch I will do 1000iu's split up into 5 shots that way if you are coming off a longer ester. a shorter ester you can up the dose and reduce the shots to get the 5K iu's in there quicker.

its all about timing. long ester will slowly taper off so you want to stretch your hcg more into smaller injections when you kick

 

[soupeater]

What about for an oral only cycle? Would you use a larger dose to kick during the last week on or 2 days after last pill or?

 

[stevesmi]

^^^i'm assuming your oral only is short. i wouldn't even bother with hcg.. just run some hcgenerate during, you don't even need to use much.. and then unleashed and post cycle a bottle of each is ample.

 

[soupeater]

thanks steve

 

[MikeLB333]

Not trying to hijack the thread with questions. but I wanna use the hcg I have I didn't cause I was told not to.

But I ran a 14 week test e cycle at 600 mg a week. My last shot was Friday so almost a week ago but my 'boys' are pretty full they've been going from raisins to decently full back and forth for the tail end of my cycle and I haven't used hcg or hcgenerate.

So my question is should I still kickstart with hcg??
I'm only a little concerned cause my 'boys' are almost normal lol.

 

[noodles1010]

so run 500iu EOD for 2 weeks after your last test-e shot?

Yes... Along with hcgenerate, forma stanzol, and forged steel for 8
Weeks.
Needto gave me that to do after a t400 @800mg week then on week 6 ran out and jumped to 600mg week of test e, ran that till week 14 and deca @ 250mg week for weeks 1-8 and that pct has worked amazing so far and I'm so sensitive I'll get side effects from a friggin Advil so.... Great results and I'm in my 3rd or 4th week of pct. Gotta check the calander. I don't pay attention to dates too much now I just follow the regimine and let it take it's course. Blood test is at week 6 so well see. I see no problems at all so far and I was shut down pretty bad.
I'm sure there's people who know better than me. This was my first cycle but I got greaaat gains across the board and minimal loss so far.
That's the point tho isn't it...
Good luck