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HCG Question

Tover

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I have a question about HCG. I have been doing a Test/Tren cycle for one week now, I have Nolvadex, Clomid and Armidex. I ordered some HCG online about ten days ago but it hasn't arrived yet. My account was charged but I didn't recieve a confirmation email with a tracking number. I'm pretty darn sure my HCG will arrive in the next week since the source is highly recommended on here, but my question is, should I halt my cycle until it arrives or will I be fine with what therapy I have?

Thanks!
 
you dont need hcg till wk 4
 
I have a question about HCG. I have been doing a Test/Tren cycle for one week now, I have Nolvadex, Clomid and Armidex. I ordered some HCG online about ten days ago but it hasn't arrived yet. My account was charged but I didn't recieve a confirmation email with a tracking number. I'm pretty darn sure my HCG will arrive in the next week since the source is highly recommended on here, but my question is, should I halt my cycle until it arrives or will I be fine with what therapy I have?

Thanks!

don't start until you have everything you need

what if you get an email saying the HCG is backordered for another month? if you don't have it in your hands assume it's not coming.

and just because your nuts don't shrink by week 4 doesn't mean they are rendered useless until week 4

as soon as you introduce exogenous test you start shutting down

start HCG week 1 or 2
 
I always use hcg after my cycle with great results, so I damn sure wouldnt worry if i were you. In all honesty either method works just fine. :)
 
you guys giving some bad advice...

DONT STOP YOUR CYCLE....

run that shit you already started...if you dont get your hcg this week order more form one of the sponsers here...
there so many ways to run hcg it dont matter if ya use now or not...as long as you have 500iu ed for the last 10 days of cycle and your good
 
Be careful who you listen to and who you get advice from. Some of the people responding in this thread have stated just a few posts back that they don't have nuts anymore.

Prolonged HPT shutdown will cause permanent damage! However large or small. That's a big gamble to take. And when considering the polls taken on this board for testicular shrinkage. Don't be an idiot.

The Elitefitness 2009 PCT Protocol plainly states to take HCG while on-cycle for a variety of favorable reasons.

Have the patience to wait a couple weeks.
 
Be careful who you listen to and who you get advice from. Some of the people responding in this thread have stated just a few posts back that they don't have nuts anymore.

Prolonged HPT shutdown will cause permanent damage! However large or small. That's a big gamble to take. And when considering the polls taken on this board for testicular shrinkage. Don't be an idiot.

The Elitefitness 2009 PCT Protocol plainly states to take HCG while on-cycle for a variety of favorable reasons.

Have the patience to wait a couple weeks.


Honestly man there is diferent ways to run hcg you should calm yourself......
 
Honestly man there is diferent ways to run hcg you should calm yourself......

Yes but some ways are more effective than others niightz.

"Improper use of hcg


Using hcg at the end of the cycle is the least effective way to use hcg.

You see, when you're on steroids, your brain cuts off the signal to the testes, and your testes stop producing testosterone. Once this happens, your testes shutdown, start to shrink, and become unresponsive to stimulation from the brain (essentially, the testes become desensitized). This is the reason why alot of guys never recover from a steroid cycle even after using tons of hcg and SERM's -- because the testes have stayed inactive for too long and have become permanently desensitized.

Here are a list of problems you can have from waiting untill the end of a cycle to use hcg -

* High Possibility of Permanent Testicular Damage/Desensitization
* Higher hcg Dose Requirement
* Higher Conversion Rate to Estrogen

For a fast and quick recovery of testosterone production after a cycle, you must avoid the long-periods of suppression. Once your testes go unused for too long, it is virtually impossible to get them to come back full strength, no matter how much hcg you take. For more detailed information on testicular degeneration of testicular function during a steroid cycle, see this article.



hcg during cycle - The Proper use of hcg


For any cycle longer than 6 weeks, you need to get your hands on some hcg and use it during the cycle. A small dose will keep the testes running as normal during cycle, so they can jump back on track when the cycle is over. Plus, when you use hcg during the cycle, you don't need to use it for PCT.

On-cycle hcg forces your testes to continue producing testosterone as they normally would. The trick with on-cycle hcg use is to avoid using too much, too frequently (which can also desensitize your testes the same as not using any at all!). It’s important to use just enough to stimulate the testes to produce the same amount of testosterone they would normally.

Check out the simple hcg dosing guidelines -

http://www.primordialperformance.co...aphics/PCT for 2009/hcg-Dosing-Guidelines.jpg

If you can’t see an image, view the thread here.


* Every 4 days = Shoot on Monday, then on Friday, then on Tuesday, ect.

† AI - Aromatase Inhibitor (While taking 1000iu shots, I recommend 10mg/ED of Aromasin or .5mg/ED Arimidex to keep estrogen in control. Legal alternatives include Formasol and Arom-X which are also effective aromatase inhibitors. Discontinue AI 4 days after last hcg shot.)


If you are doing the on-cycle hcg protocol it is important to discontinue hcg 2 weeks prior to AAS clearance. Therefore, when you officially start PCT you will be clean of all AAS's and will be 14 days from your last hcg shot. This allows your testes to become re-sensitized to the body's LH signal from the brain, making for a quick recovery of natural testosterone production as soon as the steroids and hcg clear the system. This is another reason why on-cycle hcg is superior, because it allows you to start recovering as soon as PCT begins.

If you aren't doing hcg on-cycle, then use hcg according to the "last 2 weeks or after the cycle" guidelines, and start it 4-5 weeks before the AAS's are expected to clear the system (Or as soon as possible if you are already past this point).

For AAS clearance times, see the table in the last section. "
 
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