HCG question

[ukkared]

As a general rule I always include hcg in any pct program. Anybody heard of just using clomid, nolv, and aromasin or armidex AND actually keeping their gains?

 

[Varga]

As a general rule I always include HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - in any PCT - post cycle therapy - program. Anybody heard of just using clomid, nolv, and aromasin or armidex AND actually keeping their gains?

It depends on the cycle

 

[Primordial Performance]

As a general rule I always include HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - in any PCT - post cycle therapy - program. Anybody heard of just using clomid, nolv, and aromasin or armidex AND actually keeping their gains?

No, but Ive heard of guys using hCG on cycle, and then using nothing for PCT and keeping all their gains.

-Pp

 

[Varga]

No, but Ive heard of guys using HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - on cycle, and then using nothing for PCT - post cycle therapy - and keeping all their gains.

-Pp

I don't think that's enough to just use HCG. YOu still supressed from HCG and this is from my own experience. The experience I had was like my nuts were able to produce sperm but there wasn't a signal to jump start them. I think estrogen and other factors are involved in the process.

 

[Primordial Performance]

I don't think that's enough to just use HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - . YOu still supressed from HCG and this is from my own experience. The experience I had was like my nuts were able to produce sperm but there wasn't a signal to jump start them. I think estrogen and other factors are involved in the process.

Yes, your LH signal from the pituitary will still be suppressed with hCG use, BUT hCG will preserve your testicular function, and make for a much faster recovery.

Once the testes loose their ability to produce testosterone from lack of activity, it takes months to get them back to normal production, compared to days or even weeks to get normal LH levels back to normal. The rate limiting step for returning T on PCT is usually the testes ability to respond to LH, not insufficient LH levels.

If your estrogen was high during the cycle, bring it down for PCT with a mild AI. This will initiate the LH surge that you need and get you back on track.

-Pp

 

[Varga]

that makes sense

 

[ukkared]

Fellas I guess you read my question wrong, I was talking about NOT using Hcg AND keeping your gains.

 

[drdug27]

Fellas I guess you read my question wrong, I was talking about NOT using HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - AND keeping your gains.

i found i keep more my gains and i recover with HCG then without it

 

[Varga]

Fellas I guess you read my question wrong, I was talking about NOT using HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - AND keeping your gains.

I've always used HCG so I'm not sure. I recommend to use it if you can get it. Recovery is faster, -faster recovery =more gains kept!