hcg question for mid cycle use

[bumpo]

I am running a twelve week cycle of test/eq

I have 10000ui worth of hcg I added an additional 9 ml's of bactrose water to teh 1 ml it came with. I have 10 cc's of 1000ui of hcg

should I use 5000 ui spread out over two weeks between weeks 5-7?

or just run all 10000ui weeks 12-14 just prior to post cycle?

have you guys done the mid-cycle hcg thing before?

 

[bumpo]

guys come on no one here ahs used hcg mid cycle?

hard to believe

 

[bumpo]

bump

 

[Canuck4]

It could only help bro.
Id do it mid cycle and then again prior to post cycle.

 

[Juice Authority]

I am running a twelve week cycle of test/eq

I have 10000ui worth of hcg I added an additional 9 ml's of bactrose water to teh 1 ml it came with. I have 10 cc's of 1000ui of hcg

should I use 5000 ui spread out over two weeks between weeks 5-7?

or just run all 10000ui weeks 12-14 just prior to post cycle?

have you guys done the mid-cycle hcg thing before?

You bonehead. We already answered this over at A-A. It's best to take towards the end of your cycle so if you're on a 12 week cycle hit the HCG on week 10 at 500IU's ED for 20 days or week 11 at 1000IU's ed for 10 days. Come on Bumpo. Get with the program son.

 

[Canuck4]

Actually, according to Lawnsaver its good to take mid cycle to prevent atrophy and then again towards the end prior to post cycle therapy.

 

[Juice Authority]

Actually, according to Lawnsaver its good to take mid cycle to prevent atrophy and then again towards the end prior to post cycle therapy.

That's cause LAWNSAVER gets irreversible atrophy. Ask him. Most people don't experience his type of skrinkage.

 

[Canuck4]

Lol
Thats true.
He got only one working testicle

That's cause LAWNSAVER gets irreversible atrophy. Ask him. Most people don't experience his type of skrinkage.

 

[jubei]

Use it mid cycle.

 

[lawnsaver]

I see my lack of a testicle is the blunt of a joke....I wish i could laugh.

The use of HCG should used as a preventive measure, not a rememdy.

What I mean is...yes, taking it mid cycle or only towards the end of a cycle will in most cases revert any atrophy that has set in.

My question is....Why would you want the atrophy to set in, in the first place?? Wouldnt you like to prevent it from happening in the first place? I would!!

Now, let talk about how...

I now advise all people cycling to take small doese(500-750ius) every 4-5 days throughout the cycle. This will do a few things...positive things!

1: Taking the HCG this way will keep the LH signal flowing to the testicles. This will prevent the atrophy from ever setting in. I feel this is much better than waiting for it to happen and then trying to fix it. Common sense to me.

2. The use of HCG throughout your cycle will only add to your gains. You will be consistantly increasing natural test production throughout your cycle. The doses are small enough not to cause a major increase in estrogen and small enough not to desensitise your testicles from the natural LH you will produce once you are in HPTA therapy.

HCG will stay active in the frig for up to 5-6 weeks, so you dont have to worry about it going bad.

If I was to read this post, I would say this is a no brainer. I would take it throughout to prevent the atrophy. I would also take it to keep test levels elevated.

Do you give you car oil changes every 3-5 months to prevent engine damage? Sure!! This is a preventitive action.

Threat your testicle the same way!

 

[Juice Authority]

I see my lack of a testicle is the blunt of a joke....I wish i could laugh.

The use of HCG should used as a preventive measure, not a rememdy.

Ok LAWN...point taken. On heavier, longer cycles I understand the logic behind what you're saying but for the your standard 8-12 week cycle I really don't see the need to use HCG until you're nearing the end of your cycle in preparation for clomid therapy.

BTW, you weren't the blunt of a joke you sensitive smuck!

 

[Canuck4]

Dont worry bro.
You know we love you

 

[T2O]

I just took my 4 week shot of deca and cyp. I just started to show some shrinkage so I started my HCG at 500mgs 2 days in a row and will continue at 500mgs eod to finish 10,000 ius. I started Nolva at 20mgs ed and will continue the nolva with the hcg. 3 days after the HCG my nuts just jumped back almost to their normal size. I know they will still shrink but its all about experimenting to me. I will follow up post cycle with HCG and clomid. May also use nolva. Hopefully when the cycle is over my nuts will won't have to come back from pea size and will have retained most of thier mass and will jump back to normal a lot faster. I have no complaints yet. Actually I feel very good about this idea and expect it to work very well. I would however suggest making sure you have it at the conclusion of the cycle. Thats more important.

 

[Johnny Cut]

im glad LS is comparing my balls to my car......lol

 

[bumpo]

Juice not to be a dick, but no one on A-A really understood what i was talking about.

I agree with lawnsaver about mid cycle usage, but the question is do I run 5000 ui throught lets say weeks 5-7 and then use 5000 between 12-14.

or do I run it like lawnsaver said every week until the end starting at week 6?

Isn't there some long term efefcts if you use hcg for to long.

 

[jubei]

Hcg should be used in short cycles of 2-3 weeks so that you do not desensitize your body to LH. I do think that the best way to deal with testicular atrophy is to never let it happen in the first place. Keep in mind that Hcg once mixed is good for up to 10 weeks if kept refridgerated.

 

[bumpo]

yeah I am going to mix my 10000ui per 1ml with 9 additional cc's of bactrose water and will put it in a sterol container when i hit week 5.

 

[Juice Authority]

im glad LS is comparing my balls to my car......lol

Yeah, I know that analogy makes a lot of sense. Not!

 

[meat19]

since its already mixed you must keep it in the fridge now or it will go bad.

 

[lawnsaver]

Yeah, I know that analogy makes a lot of sense. Not!

JA....LOL! Bro, I know you were getting my back, but this is exactly the type of posts no one needs to read or hear!

Thanks for getting my back, but go give your wife a kiss and a huge and get off the PC for a while bro!!

You know where I'm coming from!! Take care of your business...EF will be here!

 

[Juice Authority]

JA....LOL! Bro, I know you were getting my back, but this is exactly the type of posts no one needs to read or hear!

Thanks for getting my back, but go give your wife a kiss and a huge and get off the PC for a while bro!!

You know where I'm coming from!! Take care of your business...EF will be here!

Yeah, well she took the baby and went to Chicago to visit her family so it's me, the two maltese puppies and the PC this weekend. No hard feelings about before. I was wrong for saying this shit I said. You're a good guy and I have nothing against you.

 

[browncloud]

Need some input here. I will be starting clomid in 14 days I did a nine week cycle of tren,prop,var, and winny. The last 3 weeks have been prop and winny only. My balls are smaller forsure, but still hang most of the time. I have been using prop at 100mgs EOD for 7 weeks. My questions is should i just do clomid therpy at the end or should i hit the hcg for the next 2 weeks with some nolv? If so what doses? Also this is my first long cycle, did a 2 weeker before this. My reason I was thinking of hitting the hcg was to get the boyz back to full size to to increase the recovery process. Also i have heard about hcg's and estrogen rebound?

 

[jboldman]

in this case, I would either take 1000-15000 hcg every three days for two weeks or split into smalller doses daily for the same period of time. Yes start the nolvadex and go straight thru, start clomid when you compute test is back to physiologic levels.

The two docs that I know that do this sort of thing, recommend 500-1000iu of hcg evey couple weeks during the weekend during the cycle to keep the boys up and ready to recover.

jb

 

[browncloud]

So I am going to go ahead with the HCG, I have'nt got it yet so i am going to go to the pharmy today and get it. You just skin pop it with insulin needles correct, and after you mix it keep it refrigarated? would you run the nolv at 20mgs or 40mgs? At a dose of 1000 iu's every three days would you worry about estrogen rebound. I am no familiar with E-rebound but I have heard this can be a draw back to hcg. I am taking 75mgs proviron at my anti arom, along with 20mgs nolv. Was running arim for 7 weeks at 1 mg a day, and have'nt notice much more water retention since i stopped 2 weeks ago. Just wondering if it would be good to add again to mix or just over kill?