HCG or Clomid

[Varsity13]

hey...i had decided that i would use clomid post cycle, but now i have heard that you can get all kinds of acne and shit...would HCG be a better substitute for Clomid??? are there any sides to HCG?

 

[Juice Authority]

I think more research is needed before you start your cycle. Comparing HCG to clomid is apples to oranges. HCG is a natural peptide hormone and taken post-cycle by itself can actually hinder and prolong your recovery. I put quotations around the excerpts from medical studies.

"HCG is therefore used during longer or heavier steroid cycles to maintain testicular size and condition, or to bring atrophied (shrunken) testicles back up to their original condition in preparation for post-cycle Clomid therapy. This process is necessary because atrophied testicles produce reduced levels of natural testosterone, this situation should be rectified prior to post-cycle Clomid therapy".

"HCG administration post-cycle is common practice among bodybuilders in the belief that it will aid the natural testosterone recovery, but this theory is unfounded and also counterproductive. The rapid rise in both testosterone, and thus oestrogen due to aromatisation, from the administration of HCG causes further inhibition of the HPTA (Hypothalamic/Pituitary/Testicular Axis - feedback loop discussed above); this actually worsens the recovery situation. HCG does not restore the natural testosterone production."

Nolva and clomid although they're both anti-e's are very different but are structurally alike. Nolva is most commonly used for the treatment of breast cancer in women, while clomid is generally considered a fertility aid. clomid is generally used as post-cycle therapy and Nolva as an anti-estrogen but both work to bring back natural testosterone in the body after the conclusion of a cycle.

"For best results, it is best stacked with HCG (Human Chorionic gonadotrophin), which functions as an LH analog and can help bring testicle size back up. HCG use starts the last week of a cycle, and on from there every 5-6 days (usually 1500-3000 IU) and discontinued 1.5 to weeks prior to the cessation of Nolvadex/clomid. The reason being that HCG itself is also suppressive of natural testosterone and should be out of the body before therapy is over, or it will inhibit natural testicle function. But I can not stress enough that HCG possibly plays a more important role in post-cycle therapy than clomid/Nolvadex. For Clomid and Nolvadex, doses are usually tapered down. Its best to start with 40-50 mg of Nolvadex or 150 mg of Clomid for the first week or the first two weeks, and then finish the program with 20-25 mg of Nolvadex or 100 mg of Clomid for an additional two weeks".

 

[TECH ONE]

Bro just suck it up and use the Clomid post cycle!!! You won't know what its like until you try it! Plus in my opinion getting a little acne is a good sign that my normal test levels are almost back to normal!!

 

[Stillgoing]

I think more research is needed before you start your cycle. Comparing HCG to clomid is apples to oranges. HCG is a natural peptide hormone and taken post-cycle by itself can actually hinder and prolong your recovery. I put quotations around the excerpts from medical studies.

"HCG is therefore used during longer or heavier steroid cycles to maintain testicular size and condition, or to bring atrophied (shrunken) testicles back up to their original condition in preparation for post-cycle Clomid therapy. This process is necessary because atrophied testicles produce reduced levels of natural testosterone, this situation should be rectified prior to post-cycle Clomid therapy".

"HCG administration post-cycle is common practice among bodybuilders in the belief that it will aid the natural testosterone recovery, but this theory is unfounded and also counterproductive. The rapid rise in both testosterone, and thus oestrogen due to aromatisation, from the administration of HCG causes further inhibition of the HPTA (Hypothalamic/Pituitary/Testicular Axis - feedback loop discussed above); this actually worsens the recovery situation. HCG does not restore the natural testosterone production."

Nolva and clomid although they're both anti-e's are very different but are structurally alike. Nolva is most commonly used for the treatment of breast cancer in women, while clomid is generally considered a fertility aid. clomid is generally used as post-cycle therapy and Nolva as an anti-estrogen but both work to bring back natural testosterone in the body after the conclusion of a cycle.

"For best results, it is best stacked with HCG (Human Chorionic gonadotrophin), which functions as an LH analog and can help bring testicle size back up. HCG use starts the last week of a cycle, and on from there every 5-6 days (usually 1500-3000 IU) and discontinued 1.5 to weeks prior to the cessation of Nolvadex/clomid. The reason being that HCG itself is also suppressive of natural testosterone and should be out of the body before therapy is over, or it will inhibit natural testicle function. But I can not stress enough that HCG possibly plays a more important role in post-cycle therapy than clomid/Nolvadex. For Clomid and Nolvadex, doses are usually tapered down. Its best to start with 40-50 mg of Nolvadex or 150 mg of Clomid for the first week or the first two weeks, and then finish the program with 20-25 mg of Nolvadex or 100 mg of Clomid for an additional two weeks".

This about says it all. You should use clomid or nolv and if you want to add in HCG then so be it.

 

[Latamier]

You can get acne from using any kind of AAS as well, so who cares if you get some from clomid. I have always used clomid and never had a problem from it. HCG is a tad bit hard to obtain right now as well. Clomid all the way post cycle for me!

 

[JOE SHMO]

TRYING TO BRING BACK THE BOYS!! HELP

I did a search and am now more confused then before i started.I just got off my cycle 3 weeks ago.I have have hcg,clomid and nolvadex.My ques. is I know my dosage amounts BUT.... do i do them all together or start hcg wait 2 weeks and then start clomid/nolv together!! THANKS FOR ADVICE