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hCG/hMG study - opinions

I found this study about HGC use in a steroid user, with a depressed sperm count. Some things occured to me:
1. People on this board suggest taking hCG daily, not twice per week, as in this study

2. 10,000 IU twice a week - this is a much higher single administration than is reccomended on this board

3. The treatment was continued for 3 months, in order for the desired effects to be observed - it is often reccomended to be taken for 2 weeks.

4. What is hMG? - it was used at a dose of 75 IU/day - anyone used this PCT, any good?


Successful treatment of anabolic steroid-induced azoospermia with human chorionic gonadotropin and human menopausal gonadotropin.

Menon DK.

Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, University Malaya Medical Centre, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. [email protected]

OBJECTIVE: To document for the first time the successful treatment using human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) and human menopausal gonadotropins (hMG) of anabolic steroid-induced azoospermia that was persistent despite 1 year of cessation from steroid use. DESIGN: Clinical case report. SETTINGS: Tertiary referral center for infertility. PATIENT(S): A married couple with primary subfertility secondary to azoospermia and male hypogonadotropic hypogonadism. The husband was a bodybuilder who admitted to have used the anabolic steroids testosterone cypionate, methandrostenolone, oxandrolone, testosterone propionate, oxymetholone, nandrolone decanoate, and methenolone enanthate. INTERVENTION(S): Twice-weekly injections of 10,000 IU of hCG (Profasi; Serono) and daily injections of 75 IU of hMG (Humegon; Organon) for 3 months. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURE(S): Semen analyses, pregnancy. RESULT(S): Semen analyses returned to normal after 3 months of treatment. The couple conceived spontaneously 7 months later. CONCLUSION(S): Steroid-induced azoospermia that is persistent after cessation of steroid use can be treated successfully with hCG and hMG.
 
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SPORT SCIENTIST said:
I found this study about HGC use in a steroid user, with a depressed sperm count. Some things occured to me:
1. People on this board suggest taking hCG daily, not twice per week, as in this study

2. 10,000 IU twicw a week - this is a much higher singular administration than is reccomended on this board

3. The treatment was continued for 3 months, in order for the desired effects to be observed - it is often reccomended to be taken for 2 weeks.

4. What is hMG? - it was used at a dose of 75 IU/day - anyone used this PCT, any good?.

1. There are many different protocols due to the individuality of each case but the average suggests ED/EOD administration.

2. The patient in this case study has a much more severe case of hypogonadism compared to the average AAS user. This requires a different treatment approach.

3. It's recommended only to be used for 2 weeks by those whom are not educated and/or experienced with this subject.

4. Human Menopausal Gondadotropin aka Menotropins. 150 IUs total which consists of 75 IUs FSH and 75 IUs LH. This is primarily used for the induction of spermatogenesis when HCG by iteslf is unsuccessful.

Jenetic
 
Jenetic said:
1. There are many different protocols due to the individuality of each case but the average suggests ED/EOD administration.

2. The patient in this case study has a much more severe case of hypogonadism compared to the average AAS user. This requires a different treatment approach.

3. It's recommended only to be used for 2 weeks by those whom are not educated and/or experienced with this subject.

4. Human Menopausal Gondadotropin aka Menotropins. 150 IUs total which consists of 75 IUs FSH and 75 IUs LH. This is primarily used for the induction of spermatogenesis when HCG by iteslf is unsuccessful.

Jenetic

Thanks.

Seeing as you seem quite knowledgeable about this, what would you suggest as optimal PCT in regard to hCG doseages/time peroid used.

Also, do you want to overlap a week of clomid with the hCG, as I have seen suggested or not (others say this is not a good idea)

Personal observation: there seems to be a huge disparity in advice when it comes to hCG use - it's difficult to know who to believe.
 
The answers to all your questions lie in the PCT forum.

Jenetic
 
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