HCG during or after

[Airborneyut]

I'm starting my most ambitious cycle in a couple of weeks and could use some input. My past cycles have consisted of sus. or deca by themselves, 200-250pw for 8 weeks or so. Though my gains were minimal (5-10lbs after all was said and done) I was pleased with the outcome. My next jaunt would consist of the following:
Sus-250pw for 8 weeks
Deca-200pw for 8 weeks w/ weeks 4&5 at 400pw.
D-bol- Week1-25pd, week2-30pd, week3-35/40pd and back down weeks 4,5,&6.
Proviron-50mg pd Starting on the back half of week 2 and going through week 8.
Clomid-PCT starting around week 12or13 (waiting for the deca to run through a bit).

I have 2- HCG5000iu. Would it be better to use one in the middle somewhere, say around week 4/5, and the other around week 9/10 along with my pct. or is there a better way to take advantage of them?
How does this cycle look otherwise.

 

[sprinter86]

I like this cycle... did something very similar about 3years ago and got excellent gains. I would lower the Dbol a bit. Maybe ramped up to a maximum of 20mg/day.

The HCG you should only need 5000iu to kickstart at the end of the cycle. I would mix with 2-3ml water and inject over 3weeks starting at the time of your last AAS injection. You can do this by drawing into a syringe, inject, put syringe in fridge, next time just change the needle.

 

[Popeye1]

I'm starting my most ambitious cycle in a couple of weeks and could use some input. My past cycles have consisted of sus. or deca by themselves, 200-250pw for 8 weeks or so. Though my gains were minimal (5-10lbs after all was said and done) I was pleased with the outcome. My next jaunt would consist of the following:
Sus-250pw for 8 weeks
Deca-200pw for 8 weeks w/ weeks 4&5 at 400pw.
D-bol- Week1-25pd, week2-30pd, week3-35/40pd and back down weeks 4,5,&6.
Proviron-50mg pd Starting on the back half of week 2 and going through week 8.
Clomid-PCT starting around week 12or13 (waiting for the deca to run through a bit).

I have 2- HCG5000iu. Would it be better to use one in the middle somewhere, say around week 4/5, and the other around week 9/10 along with my pct. or is there a better way to take advantage of them?
How does this cycle look otherwise.

Personally, I think it's a good idea to keep the "boys" active and plump during the cycle. That said, I would use the HCG during the cycle at 500iu/week.

 

[Stryker1992]

I like this cycle... did something very similar about 3years ago and got excellent gains. I would lower the Dbol a bit. Maybe ramped up to a maximum of 20mg/day.

The HCG you should only need 5000iu to kickstart at the end of the cycle. I would mix with 2-3ml water and inject over 3weeks starting at the time of your last AAS injection. You can do this by drawing into a syringe, inject, put syringe in fridge, next time just change the needle.

I am going to disagree. that is too much HCG and it really should not be used post cycle. HCG elevates test levels and when they are too high the natural system will remain shut-down. HCG is quite effective during a cycle to keep the HPA axis moving but a dosage post cycle like 5oooiu's is retarded if you ask me.

 

[Bruce]

i am a fan of 250ius a week with the gear, then the boys never shrink. at the end follow jenetics protocol it is infallible. u may want to lower the doses if your head hurts but j's proto is tha bomb. i didn't lose a thing from my cycle using hcg. i only needed 500iu's a day for a week after, but i only took deca for 12 weeks. light cycle

 

[Popeye1]

i am a fan of 250ius a week with the gear, then the boys never shrink. at the end follow jenetics protocol it is infallible. u may want to lower the doses if your head hurts but j's proto is tha bomb. i didn't lose a thing from my cycle using hcg. i only needed 500iu's a day for a week after, but i only took deca for 12 weeks. light cycle

So you used HCG during your cycle at 250iu/week and also for PCT as well?

 

[samuel1975]

It's alot to read but there is some good info about HCG in the thread below, posted by Fat Sumo
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-327882.html

 

[athlete.03]

HCG is a must for yo nuts!

 

[sprinter86]

I am going to disagree. that is too much HCG and it really should not be used post cycle. HCG elevates test levels and when they are too high the natural system will remain shut-down. HCG is quite effective during a cycle to keep the HPA axis moving but a dosage post cycle like 5oooiu's is retarded if you ask me.

I generally use 3-5000iu post cycle over 3weeks. I have never had any sign of gyno and keep more than 90% of my gains every time. Combined with Nolva and Clomid, I have not even lost 1lb two weeks after my last shot... doesnt this say something? And Pregnyl is available in 2500iu and 5000iu single shot vials which makes it very difficult to take lower doses.

 

[ElMatador]

Bro...just go with HCG after your cycle...