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HCG doe's it call gyno?
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insecurepitbullowner
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Well if it causes your test to increase then I'm guessing yes, because excess test is converted to estrogen.
Twisted_Steel
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Remember that gynocomastia is a side effect which results from the aromatization of supraphysiological quantities of an androgenic hormone (testosterone) into estradiol. Please don't confuse gyno with stored adipose tissue along the pectorals of some fat ass.
Remember HCG is not to be used as a means of restoring hypophysis function. It is used to mimic LH, thus taking supressed endogenous testosterone to (temporary) physiological levels. Optimally HCG should be used in conjunction with clomid.
No, it wont give you gyno.
PEACE
Remember HCG is not to be used as a means of restoring hypophysis function. It is used to mimic LH, thus taking supressed endogenous testosterone to (temporary) physiological levels. Optimally HCG should be used in conjunction with clomid.
No, it wont give you gyno.
PEACE
im gonna quote nimrods post on clomid and hcg on this one:
"HCG: This does nothing with regard to inhibition of the hypothalamus and pituitary. Rather it acts like LH, and causes the testicles to produce testosterone just as if LH were present. It is useful then for avoiding testicular atrophy during the cycle. The best dosing method is to use small amounts frequently: 500 IU per day is sufficient, and 1000 IU may optionally be used. The amount may be given as a single daily dose or divided into two doses. Administration may be intramuscular or subcutaneous. More is not better: too much HCG can result in downregulation of the LH receptors in the testes, and is therefore counterproductive. Overdosing of HCG can also result in gynecomastia." nimrod
well there yah go. yes it can.
"HCG: This does nothing with regard to inhibition of the hypothalamus and pituitary. Rather it acts like LH, and causes the testicles to produce testosterone just as if LH were present. It is useful then for avoiding testicular atrophy during the cycle. The best dosing method is to use small amounts frequently: 500 IU per day is sufficient, and 1000 IU may optionally be used. The amount may be given as a single daily dose or divided into two doses. Administration may be intramuscular or subcutaneous. More is not better: too much HCG can result in downregulation of the LH receptors in the testes, and is therefore counterproductive. Overdosing of HCG can also result in gynecomastia." nimrod
well there yah go. yes it can.
Twisted_Steel
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Well, assuming your not jacking 5000 IU ED you shouldnt have to worry about increasing aromatase activity within the leydig cells of the testies.
I honestly havnt been informed of any studies that can clearly quantify doses that could lead to "potential" gynocomastia. Obviously, I hope, no one is going to be inclined to run HCG for longer than 1-2 weeks. Using it any longer than this can lead to hindered hormonal homeostasis.
2000--3000 IU has been my standard dose administered once every 3 days for one week.
I honestly havnt been informed of any studies that can clearly quantify doses that could lead to "potential" gynocomastia. Obviously, I hope, no one is going to be inclined to run HCG for longer than 1-2 weeks. Using it any longer than this can lead to hindered hormonal homeostasis.
2000--3000 IU has been my standard dose administered once every 3 days for one week.
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The Anabolic Avenger
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With all the recent posts about clomid and HCG I'm starting to get a little confused. Ok, here's what I was planning to do at the end of my cycle of test and eq:
one week after last injection- 2500 i.u.'s HCG
5 days later- 2500 i.u.'s HCG
one week after that- 100mg of clomid ed/week
that next week- 50mg of clomid ed/week
How does that sound or what do I need to change?
one week after last injection- 2500 i.u.'s HCG
5 days later- 2500 i.u.'s HCG
one week after that- 100mg of clomid ed/week
that next week- 50mg of clomid ed/week
How does that sound or what do I need to change?
Use of HCG post cycle or when tapering AAS is rather counterproductive, since the resulting increased testosterone production is itself inhibitory to the hypothalamus and pituitary, delaying recovery. Thus, if this drug is used, it is preferably used during the cycle itself.
Doses over 1000 IU are noted for their tendency to cause or aggravate gynecomastia, and also act to desensitize the testicles to LH.
Doses over 1000 IU are noted for their tendency to cause or aggravate gynecomastia, and also act to desensitize the testicles to LH.
liquidanny
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Its very true..I have heard three first hand accounts thus far.....
Re: yes
What "fact" are you talking about?
I have used 5000 ui (at once) post cycle, then 4 days later 2000 more, waited 4 days and used 2000 more. I didn't take arimidex and I didn't take Nolva.
And no,I didn't got Gyno either. And that is a fact.
Sometimes I really wonder from where do you take your "facts" and "knowledge
If you don't know shit then don't give advice
brama said:
What "fact" are you talking about?
I have used 5000 ui (at once) post cycle, then 4 days later 2000 more, waited 4 days and used 2000 more. I didn't take arimidex and I didn't take Nolva.
And no,I didn't got Gyno either. And that is a fact.
Sometimes I really wonder from where do you take your "facts" and "knowledge
If you don't know shit then don't give advice
Re: Re: yes
it increases the production of test, which in turn "could"
result in conversion of some to "estro" and if this is let to be, you tell me whats the result?it carries the same possibility of jabbing test and not using an anti-e.
as far as your situation and dosage, you are probably
one of the crew that are blessed with good genetics and react very well to AS. Iwill try to locate the read and post it here as long as its not copyright.
Widi said:
What "fact" are you talking about?
I have used 5000 ui (at once) post cycle, then 4 days later 2000 more, waited 4 days and used 2000 more. I didn't take arimidex and I didn't take Nolva.
And no,I didn't got Gyno either. And that is a fact.
Sometimes I really wonder from where do you take your "facts" and "knowledge
If you don't know shit then don't give advice
it increases the production of test, which in turn "could"
result in conversion of some to "estro" and if this is let to be, you tell me whats the result?it carries the same possibility of jabbing test and not using an anti-e.
as far as your situation and dosage, you are probably
one of the crew that are blessed with good genetics and react very well to AS. Iwill try to locate the read and post it here as long as its not copyright.
Italianboy
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Use HCG jsut during your cycle to keep your Leyding cells active and not cause their shrink:this will help your recovery forumla after cycle(w clomid arimidex and so..).
The Anabolic Avenger
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That's what I'm saying Widi, from everything I've read and researched I've never heard of HCG giving you gyno until I got to this board. The only time it's been suggested was if you use HCG for longer than 1-2 weeks after a cycle, and you deserve it if you do use it longer than that.
The Anabolic Avenger
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Ok, I just did some more reading on it real quick and both view points seem to be right. People use it during and they use it after. Some people can get elevated estrogen levels when using after a cycle and some don't depending on dosage level and the time period of administration. Now the real reason I want to use HCG post-cycle is cause I want my nuts to be big again! I will use Clomid too, it's just that with Clomid along it takes a month for your nuts to come back!
The HCG, contains FSH and LH in its content, this drug active the testosterone production at testicular level , but it doesn't act on the axis hypotalamic- hypofisiari. Reason why it remains inhibited, and more inhibited with the use of exogenous LH. Its my preference to use the Clomid, he acts at central level, and inhibits the aromatisation to, Its very justified their use in the light cases of ginecomastya, and testicular atrophy.
Excuse my English
Greetings from Venezuela
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Greetings from Venezuela
Italianboy
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No HCG doesn't contains LH and FSH.You're probabily meaning HMG(human menopausal gonadotrphin....can't spell sorry!muscle-doc said:
):it contains LH and FSH.Bu HCG just simulate lh and not fsh.
Enigmaxxx7
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HCG doe's it call gyno?
I'd say save your money and buy a dictionary instead.
I'd say save your money and buy a dictionary instead.
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Hey italianboy, you are right
The HCG, is a hormone that simulates the effect of the LH, it doesn't really contain LH neither FSH, alone the HMG contains them...
Excuse me, it is my first post in English
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Hey italianboy, you are right
The HCG, is a hormone that simulates the effect of the LH, it doesn't really contain LH neither FSH, alone the HMG contains them...
Excuse me, it is my first post in English
A hug
