Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I normally use clomid every other day while on and then double up at the end and never let my natural production go off. But on this last cycle i did i was out of clomid so i had to wait until the end to use it. It doesn't seem to be working very well alone so i'm taking some hcg now to help it out. I'm going to take two 1cc shots of the hcg for the next two weeks. My question is should i drop the clomid while on the hcg or use them both together?? I did a search on this but the info i received was very vauge and conflicting.............
HCG and clomid together? Or one then the other post cycle
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Weam
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never do both together
HCG first then Clomid, you just feel more powerful during HCG usage because it increase Testosterone production very strongly but keep in mind all HCG's effects is temproary, HCG will do nothing to restore natural Testosterone production except treating testicular shrinkage
HCG first then Clomid, you just feel more powerful during HCG usage because it increase Testosterone production very strongly but keep in mind all HCG's effects is temproary, HCG will do nothing to restore natural Testosterone production except treating testicular shrinkage
Weam
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It's kind of long explaination but to be brief
The hypothalamus at the brain is responsible for giving signals to the pituitary gland to start producing Gonadotrophins releasing hormone a.k.a GnRH, this hormone increase the production of Luteinizing hormone resuling in givnig signals to the testicles to produce Testosterone by chemical reactions throw leydig cells
While using Excessive amount of Steroids, it gives negative feedbacks to the hypothalamus therefor interrupts it's job from sending signals to the pituitary to complete the process of boosting/making Testosterone
HCG works as a synthetic Luteinizing hormone which will gives signals directly to the testicles to produce Testosterone but at the same time, being a synthetic exogenous hormone will results in sending negative feedbacks to the hypothalamus, therefor HCG's effects is just temproary but in fact HCG inhibit natural Testosterone production same as Steroids
while Clomid's mechanism, it send positive feedbacks to the hypothalamus by inhibiting Estrogen receptors at this area, therefor the hypothalamus will start working better and as Clomid being a non-steroidal hormone and works by the feedbacks mechanism therefor it will never inhibit the HPTA if compared to HCG
The hypothalamus at the brain is responsible for giving signals to the pituitary gland to start producing Gonadotrophins releasing hormone a.k.a GnRH, this hormone increase the production of Luteinizing hormone resuling in givnig signals to the testicles to produce Testosterone by chemical reactions throw leydig cells
While using Excessive amount of Steroids, it gives negative feedbacks to the hypothalamus therefor interrupts it's job from sending signals to the pituitary to complete the process of boosting/making Testosterone
HCG works as a synthetic Luteinizing hormone which will gives signals directly to the testicles to produce Testosterone but at the same time, being a synthetic exogenous hormone will results in sending negative feedbacks to the hypothalamus, therefor HCG's effects is just temproary but in fact HCG inhibit natural Testosterone production same as Steroids
while Clomid's mechanism, it send positive feedbacks to the hypothalamus by inhibiting Estrogen receptors at this area, therefor the hypothalamus will start working better and as Clomid being a non-steroidal hormone and works by the feedbacks mechanism therefor it will never inhibit the HPTA if compared to HCG
I was told to take HCG at 1cc/day for 30 days to do it right. My source said this is the way to go to keep all your gains. I have 3 HCG GONAKOR kits and plan to use them when I decide to come off. I also have lots of NOLVS to chew everyday to keep my estrogen levels in check. I was planning on eating 40mg/nolv a day durring the 30 days. Then should I take clomid after that? If so how? Thanks, Green
Weam
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Green said:
Well, 1cc/day of HCG in what strength 500-1500-5000!
Nolvadex will not keep Estrogen levels down, use the search engine and you'll know why!
Arimidex would be great for keeping Estrogen levels down, Nolvadex will work but only for preventing gyno
Clomid is a must, HCG will inhibit your natural Testosterone production after you stop the cycle, that's it
