i love them, with that said, i feel when you decide to use them u need to choose between boozin and stayin out all night, or juicing and doing it right. if you are will to do the latter shouldn't feel bad. cigs, alchohol worse, and people do them way too much. its rare that you hear someone died of steroid, and when you do its fishy at best. so i did a light cycle and it has changed my build and given me a base that i fuckin love. don't abuse em and they are awesome. my doc says a light cycle is like goin to cancun and boozin for 9 days. on the liver at least. look at stallone arnold admitted users, both 60 and lookin pretty healthy.