I know ,so is the leg machines imo.wtlftr said:I would do the second one for the fact it comes with a smith machine racked squat bar. The peck deck is useless thoug.
wtlftr said:OAK..an irish man with a nipple ring.. Why a nipple ring? My ole grilfriend had one, but she was female
only cage at dicks....ChewYxRage said:Just look for the basic cage....you can buy other shit after you have the essentials, look at goneliftings gym
Whats a Ballpark Total?....I Probably Could Drive To You Man..lol.. for real Though.EnderJE said:PW, can you pay for shipping?
oh..I gotcha. looking.EnderJE said:Don't know. Look up Powertec gyms and see.
for smiths?EnderJE said:fear and lack of knowledge
yepPERFECTWORLD said:for smiths?
Thats what I thought.I Couldnt see/imagine any advantage with a smith.EnderJE said:
PERFECTWORLD said:only cage at dicks....
http://dsp.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p824207dt.jpg
looks a little chinsy.I dont know though.
you think that and a bench would do it huh?
PERFECTWORLD said:why would someone want a Smith Machine ? I get the Safety Cage thing for Benches and Squats but what is it with the Smith Machines?
PERFECTWORLD said:only cage at dicks....
http://dsp.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p824207dt.jpg
looks a little chinsy.I dont know though.
you think that and a bench would do it huh?
PERFECTWORLD said:Thats what I thought.I Couldnt see/imagine any advantage with a smith.
In fact I could see it encouraging overtraining.
Appreciate the help but there was no confusion about the difference between the Two .RIGHT_SAID_FRED said:it does NOT encourage over training..... that is something anyone can do no matter what their using,,even cynder blocks
and smith machines are NOT for whimps,,,,,, stay in the gym long enough and you'll find some of the HUGE guys using them too,,,,,,, ANYONE can have a accident ,,,,even a PRO bodybuilder, on a basic bench , when bench pressing, shoulders can lock up, cramps, a un expected sneeze, anything can happen no matter HOW seasoned a lifter is,,,,,,,,,,, SMITH = SAFETY especially with NO spotter,,,,,,,,,,
Now one thing I have noticed that you DONT get with a smith that you do with traditional bench,,,,, added benefit of gains made through the effort to keep the free bar stable,,,,,,, that is lost with a smith but a SMALL trade off for the safety

yeah ...Ganryu said:This one gets a "thumbs up."
http://www.master-body-fat.biz/0tgyas.htm
lmao..yeah she is.Ganryu said:That chick on the machine is pretty ripped though.![]()

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