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Hate Crime ??

Hengst

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http://www.brooklynskyline.com/news_article.asp?c=ne&na=1486
Invoking the name “Martin Luther King” and screaming “Black Power!” a gang of up to 30 black teens attacked four white girls in Marine Park in what police are saying is not a bias crime.

According to witnesses and parents of the victims, four young girls from St. Edmund’s had the day off from school due to Easter recess. They were playing basketball during dismissal from nearby Marine Park Junior High School, when several Marine Park students demanded to use the court.

After adults intervened and asked them to wait their turn, the teens left - but returned in a pack of up to 30, both boys and girls, and stormed into the park.

Witnesses say the attackers were all black and called their victims “white crackers” during the bloody melee, which raged for almost 20 minutes.

“This is not being looked at as a bias crime,” NYPD Deputy Inspector Kevin McGinn said at the meeting.
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If this incident had happened exactly the same way with the race of the victims and attackers reversed, it would have made the front page of many newspapers over the entire country. But because the girls attacked were white, it's only reported briefly on the local level, and the authorities are yawning over the whole affair, stating unequivocally the incident isn't a racial one.
OK, will some one please inform the rest of us "crackers" what precisely constitutes a "hate crime." Does anyone seriously doubt that a group of whites would be charged with a hate crime if the circumstances had been reversed?
 
Hengst said:
http://www.brooklynskyline.com/news_article.asp?c=ne&na=1486

If this incident had happened exactly the same way with the race of the victims and attackers reversed, it would have made the front page of many newspapers over the entire country. But because the girls attacked were white, it's only reported briefly on the local level, and the authorities are yawning over the whole affair, stating unequivocally the incident isn't a racial one.
OK, will some one please inform the rest of us "crackers" what precisely constitutes a "hate crime." Does anyone seriously doubt that a group of whites would be charged with a hate crime if the circumstances had been reversed?

Not exactly. There have been cases where attackers, black, white, straight, etc. (for example, the gay female teenager that was stabbed in New Jersey by a guy that used hateful language while he stabbed her) were not been charged with a hate crime. You need a little bit more that hateful language for it to be a hate crime. If a white man robbed me and called me a nigger prior to the act or while he robbed me, that doesn't make it a hate crime.

However, looking at what you posted, it seems like one to me. If the cops got it wrong, the Justice Dept. can always take a look at it. Did this event make it into the New York Daily News or New York Post?
 
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Martin Luther King fought for equal rights and to break the yoke of segregation.
Some black kids involking his name whilst claiming a basketball court as their own turf shows how stupid and ignorant they really are.

There is no answer to the problem of hate crime because you can't reason with that kind mentality.
 
Jay Cartwright said:
Martin Luther King fought for equal rights and to break the yoke of segregation.
Some black kids involking his name whilst claiming a basketball court as their own turf shows how stupid and ignorant they really are.

There is no answer to the problem of hate crime because you can't reason with that kind mentality.

But the police are NOT considering this a 'Hate Crime' simply because the victims were white. This is what gets me so pissed off. Had the races been reversed you know damn well there would be marches, candle light vigils, calls for diversity training and so on and so on.
 
Hengst said:
But the police are NOT considering this a 'Hate Crime' simply because the victims were white. This is what gets me so pissed off. Had the races been reversed you know damn well there would be marches, candle light vigils, calls for diversity training and so on and so on.

More than likely but who gives a shit what the police think anyway. Kicking up more of a stink only causes more trouble.

I know what you're saying, people are just too scared to stick their neck out and say it like it is. It sounds like the police are handling it with kid gloves to stop it escalating into something else.
 
Hate crime laws are inane.

As if a guy who is killed would feel better about being murdered if the person who did it was just trying to rob him, or was only a run of the mill serial killer.

We already have punishments for assault and murder. If they arent sufficient, then raise the punishment for all.
 
as usual .. Hengst great post.

If it was a gang of white kids .. every cicil rights group in the country would be screaming "hate crime"..

and all these pussified white guilt ridden bags of shit denying it only make the problem worse "oh there is no problem... they didnet "mean" anything by it.. they just wanted the basketball court."

Ya tell that to those "white cracker" school girls laid up in the hospital.

God damn you are some blind, stupid fucks.
 
Milo Hobgoblin said:
as usual .. Hengst great post.

If it was a gang of white kids .. every cicil rights group in the country would be screaming "hate crime"..

and all these pussified white guilt ridden bags of shit denying it only make the problem worse "oh there is no problem... they didnet "mean" anything by it.. they just wanted the basketball court."

Ya tell that to those "white cracker" school girls laid up in the hospital.

God damn you are some blind, stupid fucks.

Why don't you and Hengst go and beat up on some black kids and then call it even.
 
LOL.

Hmmm.. I must be a racist for pointing out that if the roles were reversed. whites would convicted of a hate crime..

Ya. I see the logic there.

And Ill gladly take the title "racist".. if it means I have the common sense to see the flaw in the justice system when it comes to issues like this.
 
Milo Hobgoblin said:
as usual .. Hengst great post.

If it was a gang of white kids .. every cicil rights group in the country would be screaming "hate crime"..

and all these pussified white guilt ridden bags of shit denying it only make the problem worse "oh there is no problem... they didnet "mean" anything by it.. they just wanted the basketball court."

Ya tell that to those "white cracker" school girls laid up in the hospital.

God damn you are some blind, stupid fucks.

I coulda swore one of you guys said you don't believe in hate crimes anyway. You should be rejoicing at this.....unless you're a hypocrite. :)
 
I absolutely ABHOR the idea of hate crimes.. but if our dickhead government is going to force it upon us whites..

then they need to enforce it on everyone..

ridiculous I have to point out the obvious.


And as far as hate crimes to say murdering or beating someone is worse because you "think" its race related is absurd.. hate crime laws serve no purpose but to pander to minority rights group and the liberal "white guilt" crowd.
 
The government works off pressure. And the need to please when the public spotlight gets shined on them. How many times have you seen lazy ass government bureacrats bend when the pressure and spotlight gets thrown on them?

With that said -- when whites beat up a black person -- there's marches in the street. Angry mobs outside the DA's door. The government is pretty much strong-armed in laying charges. "Reflecting the wishes of the community".

There ain't no marches for these 2 white folks. White people are lazy by nature and only time they march together is to save a couple fucking seals.

No pressure, no problem. "out of sight, out of mind". The DA will merely move on to the next crime.

And tell these 2 white honkeys to be realists. You don't piss off inner-city low-income blacks. Didn't anyone watch Colors or Rap videos?!
 
ya that on eletter justifying the black kids actions.. what a joke.. that is the EXACT same arguement the liberals in this country use to justify ever racist action performed by a minority "its not their fault, they are just lashing out because they are oppressed"


If minorities understood what an insult that was.. to say that they have a reduced ability to reason and cannot separate events is appalling. But of course Black leaders in their continued disservice to their own communities latch onto it like its a lifeblood of their movement.

Because they know ANY other logic would point the finger inward .. pointing out the flaw in their own culture.. when in doubt.. blame whitey.

Some of the letters from the white readers are just stupid and ridiculously racist. But most of the readers make very good points.. I have a feeling this wont be the last we hear on this case.
 
USMC fighter said:
lol what if it was 20 teens who looked like me? nazi skinhead violence would be plastered all over it

True. Hate crime laws need to be applied evenly or not at all.
 
Hengst said:
But the police are NOT considering this a 'Hate Crime' simply because the victims were white. This is what gets me so pissed off. Had the races been reversed you know damn well there would be marches, candle light vigils, calls for diversity training and so on and so on.

Dude, listen, I'm sure you are appreciated as being the defender of lighter skin toned people across the world. All I'm saying is, consider yourself to be way ahead in the discrimination game. If a black guy points at you and says, "hey dude, we beat the crap out of those white schoolgirls, hahahahahahaa", all you gotta say is, "listen bro, we shackled you, beat you, raped you, kidnapped you, molested you, starved you, lynched you, hanged you for 200 years, so take that sucka"!!! I'll bet he shuts up real fast and you'll be the one pointing and laughing.
 
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Milo Hobgoblin said:
as usual .. Hengst great post.

If it was a gang of white kids .. every cicil rights group in the country would be screaming "hate crime"..

and all these pussified white guilt ridden bags of shit denying it only make the problem worse "oh there is no problem... they didnet "mean" anything by it.. they just wanted the basketball court."

Ya tell that to those "white cracker" school girls laid up in the hospital.

God damn you are some blind, stupid fucks.

Agree 100% on all counts.
 
Ffactor said:
Dude, listen, I'm sure you are appreciated as being the defender of lighter skin toned people across the world. All I'm saying is, consider yourself to be way ahead in the discrimination game. If a black guy points at you and says, "hey dude, we beat the crap out of those white schoolgirls, hahahahahahaa", all you gotta say is, "listen bro, we shackled you, beat you, raped you, kidnapped you, molested you, starved you, lynched you, hanged you for 200 years, so take that sucka"!!! I'll bet he shuts up real fast and you'll be the one pointing and laughing.

You are absolutely right, these 6 girls really deserved to be beaten because of slavery ......... How dare they tell these black girls to wait their turn to use the basketball court.

http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/45270.htm
Police sources said six to eight black girls from Marine Park JHS marched into the middle of the white girls' three-on-three basketball game and demanded the court
Finally, a posse of 20 to 30 girls set upon the victims with kicks and punches, while shouting, "White crackers," "Black power," and, curiously, "Martin Luther King."
"I thought I was going to die," one girl told The Post. "At first they just walked on our court. We didn't say anything. But they kept coming back. It looked like the crowd got bigger every time they came back."

Several girls ran into traffic and another fled to a nearby house to ring a doorbell for help only to be dragged off the stoop by her hair, the victims said.
 
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