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Has The Bird Flu Killed Anybody Yet?
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Growth&Courage
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curling said:
It's true.
It has really killed a few people in Vietnam and Thailand. It's not 100% known yet whether they were human-to-human trasmissions of the disease, however politics surrounding the distribution, licensing and exploiltation of Tamiflu is true too. Actually politics surrounding whether it was human-to-human transimission of the disease too as there's quite alot of covering up and conspiracy, at least in Thailand.
plifter
Banned
So far there have been something like 120 cases of bird flu in humans. They have all been exposed directly to birds that were infected (chicken farmers). There are no known cases of it being transmitted from one human to another. However, it could be one mutation away from being able to be spread from one human to another. The flu virus is infamous for it's ability to mutate to adapt to different hosts. The worst part is that of the known cases in humans, there is a 50% mortality rate.
coldblue1955
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solution? Kill all birds!
It's taken out about 100 people.
The main reason it hasn't made the jump yet to a human to human pathogen is that it kills so quickly. Anyone who has died from it has died within the first week which doesn't give the virus time to mutate.
The main reason it hasn't made the jump yet to a human to human pathogen is that it kills so quickly. Anyone who has died from it has died within the first week which doesn't give the virus time to mutate.
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BrothaBill
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plifter said:
BAH!! ability to mutate?? Curling doesnt believe in evolution
oh, and there are known cases human to human involving a schoolgirl and family last week its surmised
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BrothaBill
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WODIN said:
it has more to do with the antigen coating of the outside of the virus not now fast it kills, just has made that mutation yet and had a human host around to spread it.
For example, spanish flu killed very rapidly, from wikipedia on spanishflu
The strain was unusual in commonly killing many young and healthy victims, as opposed to more common influenzas which caused the bulk of their mortality among newborns and the old and infirm. People without symptoms could be struck suddenly and be rendered too feeble to walk within hours; many would die the next day. Symptoms included a blue tint to the face and coughing up blood caused by severe obstruction of the lungs. In further stages, the virus caused an uncontrollable haemorrhaging that filled the lungs, and patients would drown in their own body fluids.
Mortality in the fast-progressing cases was primarily from pneumonia, by virus-induced consolidation. Slower progressing cases featured secondary bacterial pneumonias while some suspect neural involvement led to psychiatric disorders in a minority of cases. Some deaths resulted from malnourishment and even animal attacks in overwhelmed communities.
Global mortality rate from the influenza was estimated at 2.5%–5% of the population, with some 20% of the world population suffering from the disease to some extent. The disease spread across the world killing twenty-five million in the course of six months; some estimates put the total of those killed worldwide at over twice that number, possibly as high as 100 million. An estimated 17 million died in India alone, with a mortality rate of about 5% of the population. In the Indian Army, almost 22% of troops who caught the disease died of it. About 28% of the population of the U.S. suffered from the disease, and some 500,000–675,000 died from it. Some 200,000 were killed in Britain and more than 400,000 in France. The death rate was especially high in indigenous peoples where some entire villages perished in Alaska and southern Africa. Fourteen percent of the population of the Fiji Islands died in a period of only two weeks while 22% of the population of Western Samoa died. By July of 1919, 257,363 deaths in Japan were attributed to influenza, giving an estimated Japanese mortality rate of 0.425%, much lower than nearly all other Asian countries for which data are available.
The leaders of the world health organization said that this new HN1 strain causing a pandemic is "inevitable"
Although, the very fast death rate of the spanish flu may have helped it disappear after 18 months but the mutation of this HN1 from my understanding is that the settings for it just have not taken place, hence the killing of millions of birds and other preventive steps may be helping delay the inevitable
milo hobgoblin
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ROFL @ Curling (better known as "President Bush's bitch") questioning his gods sincerity at how horrible ths bird flu will be.
