Hair Loss...

[ripped1979]

OK I HAVE AN IMPORTANT QUESTION FOR STEW PREFERABLY,, HE SEEMS TO KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT, OR ANYONE FOR THAT MATTER. I'M DOING DECA AT 300 MG A WEEK FOR 8 WEEKS. NOW I'M ALSO PRONE TO HAIRLOSS. I WANT TO USE XANDROX 5% W/AZELAIC ACID, BUT IT WILL BLOCK THE DHN THERFORE CAUSING MORE HAIRLOSS. WHEN WILL IT BE SAFE, LIKE HOW LONG CAN I WAIT FOR AFTER MY CYCLE TO START USING EITHER TOPICAL SPIRONOLCATONE OR XANDROX OR EVEN PROPECIA????? THANKS

 

[Stew Meat]

To my knowlege, there is no actions of 5-alpha reduction within the scalp. It should be fine to use a topical solution.

I would wait a few months after using deca before I started using finasteride PO.


-Stew

 

[Anabolicum Mister]

O.K., Stew, brother...I guess we just don't see eye to eye on hairloss...lol.

If there was no 5-alpha reductase in the scalp, why would they bother putting a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor in Xandrox, a topical formula? Although there is more type I isozyme present than type II (upon which finasteride acts), 5AR definitely has action in the scalp. If azelaic acid works the way it is supposed to, then I wouldn't take it with deca.

 

[ripped1979]

GOOD POINT! YEA STEW WHY WOULD THEY???

 

[Stew Meat]

To my knowlege, 5-alpha reductase blockers are never used on the scalp. THAT is not the same as DHT blockers. DHT has already been reduced by 5-AR and has NO interaction with it. Topical solutions as far as I know, block androgenic activity within the scalp and not reduction within the scalp.



-Stew

 

[Solar220]

anyone use nioxin for hairloss? Blocks DHT, so it says, and is just a topical solution applied to the thinning areas.

 

[Anabolicum Mister]

To my knowlege, 5-alpha reductase blockers are never used on the scalp. THAT is not the same as DHT blockers. DHT has already been reduced by 5-AR and has NO interaction with it. Topical solutions as far as I know, block androgenic activity within the scalp and not reduction within the scalp.



-Stew

Azelaic acid is a naturally occurring saturated dicarboxylic acid with the chemical name of 1,7-heptanedicarboxylic acid and a molecular weight of 188.22. Azelaic acid is a dietary component of whole grain cereals and animal products.

The exact mechanism of action of azelaic acid is not known. The antimicrobial action may be attributable to inhibition of microbial cellular protein synthesis. Azelaic acid at high concentrations is bactericidal against Propionibacterium acnes and Staphylococcus epidermis and possesses bacteriostatic properties against a variety of aerobic microorganisms, including Staphylococcus aureus, Escherichia coli, Pseudomonas aeruginosa and Candida albicans. In vitro, azelaic acid acted as a scavenger of oxy radicals and inhibits a variety of oxidoreductive enzymes including 5-alpha reductase, the enzyme responsible for converting testosterone to DHT. Azelaic acid (0.1 to 3.0 mmol/l) has been shown to produce a competitive concentration dependent inhibition of 5-alpha reductase activity in homogenates of human foreskin. Azelaic acid is being studied for potential antimycotic and antiviral properties. The multiple actions of azelaic acid cause a normalization of keratinization and a decrease in the free fatty acid content of skin surface lipids.

 

[Solar220]

what in the world does that mean? this nioxin NX3 follicle booster contains Eco-CorrectivesTM; A patent-pending complex that contains naturally occurring essential oils, which remove DHT, excess hormones and pseudo-estrogens (environmental pollutants) from the scalp skin.

 

[mullet]

Bump for hair growth & Solar220

 

[cgk123]

what about a deca/ dbol cycle?+propecia

Nandralone (active ingredient in Deca) is the worst possible thing you could ever imagine for your hair. This hormone has the MOST androgenic activity in the hair. However, 5-alpha reductase has a very strong affinity towards nandralone. This 5-AR turns nandralone into DHN. DHN is not DHT. DHN has the LOWEST androgenic activity in the scalp. DHN's androgenic activity is concentrated in muscle tissue (not the scalp). So, Deca and nandralone analogs are actually the SAFEST steroids as they will have the LOWEST androgenic activity in the scalp post 5-alpha reduction. If you stop 5-AR from converting nandralone to DHN, you keep Deca as an androgen that concentrates its androgenic activity in the scalp causing extreme hairloss. This is why finasteride will make your hair fall out if you use it in conjunction with Deca. Finasteride prevents Deca from turning into the safe DHN.

what if i am proned to hair loss and do a deca dbol cycle?
Should i take propecia or not? i plan on deca for 10 weeks and dbol for the first 5-6 weeks.
Should i only take the propecia while taking dbol????????