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Hair loss mega-post?

buffdoc

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Below is a post I made at the end of a thread on sudden hair loss with Fina. I've also heard similar accounts w/ primo, winny, test, etc.
Only one response, from Frackal, regarding an additional, more definitive post on hair loss. Will do it if there's interest, but will take some work on my part, so I want to make sure I'm not pissing in the wind :-)
Will discuss male pattern baldness, impact of AAS, medical treatments, etc, if you want me to.


OK, this is NOT MPB (androgenetic alopecia), if the hair is falling out that fast. I read a lot here about "I used such and such AAS for so many weeks and started losing my hair, then I quit and it came back, thank God".
AA, or Androgenetic Alopecia (common male pattern baldness) is a progressive process of miniaturization of the hairs, under the influence of genetics and androgens, and time. Under these influences, with each cycle of hair growth (resting stage: telogen and growth stage:anagen) the anagen phase gets shorter and shorter, and the hair becomes finer and loses length. Eventually, after a number of cycles, the hair becomes baby fine and then is lost for good.
AA does NOT occur as a sudden "falling out" of the hair. However, there is an entity known as "telogen effluvium" (TE), which is essentially a mass shedding (many of the hairs simultaneously go into the telogen, or resting, phase, and fall out). This almost always comes back after the precipitating stress is over.
TE is more common in women (think: post pregnancy hair loss, etc), but can occur w/ men too. Any stress can stimulate this reaction: trauma, surgery, burns, emotional stress; also, the most commonly known one: cancer chemotherapy!
Perhaps Fina is such a stressor!?
At any rate, because of its nature, TE is NOT helped by finasteride, minoxidil, Nizoral, etc, as was correctly stated. Only time will tell.
My point here is that these tales of RAPID hair shedding under the influence of AAS are not AA; they are something else.
Let me know if anyone's interested in a longer, more complete post about the state of the art in hair loss and hair preservation/replacement in the future. It's a side interest of mine: I gave 3 lectures at the recent meeting of the International Society of Hair Restoration Surgery in October.
If there's a lot of interest, I'll put together a post; O/W, I'll chill into the New Year!
Best to everybody...
 
I am sure that there are many young men on the site that would like any insight they can receive about MPB. Personally I gave up a long time ago, so I cut my hair in the traditional burr cut..lol.
 
Great post bro. You are right (as usual)......it's all to common to assume "shedding" while on gear is attributed to the gear!

I don't think you'll be "pissing in the wind" with FURTHER info on this subject. The MAJORITY of the bro's on this board would benefit from such info.

I need more hair :confused: ------------------->:fro:
 
keep it going

Nice job,all the info you can give us would be great.I am 42 yo with balding where the front of a hat would sit.I have done a few cycles in the last few years and i am planning on starting a tren cycle in three weeks.I just bought minoxidal and nizoral.Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
I would be interested.

I found that both my sister and I lost hair when we started dieting (different times same result). Neither of us have radically changed the diet, but after 1 year the hair loss seemed to stop and the hair grew back.
A hair stylist told me that diet induces, MPB, ... hair lose does not grow back. It seems to me both from experience and your post she really didn't understand the situation.

I would be interested in more info along the same lines of your first post.

I already sent Karma to you!
Thanks,
T
 
I've had my share of hair shedding, especially with winny, but it always came back. Now I can pull off a winny cycle with minimal loss, all this due to a good bro (RealGains) and his posts on homemade topical spiro - works like a charm. Anyway I would be very interested in a more in-depth post on the matter.
 
I am very interested in more information! A couple of years ago I did a stout cycle of sust/d-bol/eq and experienced permanent hair loss....exactly as you described. The hair in the front is now fine, thin, slow-growing, and the line is going out like the tide.

I'm preparing to start a new cycle, and I'm equipped with Nizoral 2%, minoxidil, and Propecia......but now you have me a bit worried that this won't help :(
 
buffdoc...Thanks for taking the time out to post such a great thread. My question for you is, can diet or thyroid related telogon effluviums result in your hair becoming thinner. I done many searches and MOST talk about a rapid shed but not thinning.

I dieted down for a photo shoot and lost 30 lbs in 6 weeks, plus took eq/winny/and t3. 3 months later my hair becaome very thin on top but I didn't shed at all. I've done plenty of cycles in the past, including winny, and never expierienced thinning before from anobolics. So that's my question... can a TE cause rapid thinning, or is thinning only the result of MPB.


THANKS!
 
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