Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I started the Mike Menzer H.I.T training routine and have seen some great gains in size but especialy strength. I was wondering what the best way to cycle Winny 50mg and Deca when I am only in the gym 2 - 3 times a week. I am eating like an ethiopian and a chineese buffet. Anyway any advise you guy's have would be great.
H.I.T training and cycle advise
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Lift Chief
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Just do a regular cycle and continue to workout the way you have been. If you're gaining well naturally with that routine you should really explode with AS.
c3bodybuilding
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Do a normal cycle. Don't go overboard, and everything will be great. By choosing HIT type training you've made a step in the right direction. Too many people overtrain. Good luck, and I look forward to hearing about all the gains you made. - C3
Cornellius
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NEWBIES!!!
Why cycle if you are gaining?? Save gear when your recovery abilities can´t recover you from your training no matter how infrecuently, low volume and intense your workouts are.
If you understand this you will thank me on the long run, believe me. If not, you will make newbie gains.....ups and downs.....and will be disapointed.
Buttom line: training comes before gear.
Why cycle if you are gaining?? Save gear when your recovery abilities can´t recover you from your training no matter how infrecuently, low volume and intense your workouts are.
If you understand this you will thank me on the long run, believe me. If not, you will make newbie gains.....ups and downs.....and will be disapointed.
Buttom line: training comes before gear.
I have always trained HIT. You will notice that the number of work sets are increased a bit while HIT trainees use roids.... generall 3-6 work sets total per body part.
I would keep the training frequency the same though. I have rarely trained more frequently than three days per week on a three way split even while on roids.
There is no diff to gear use while training HIT except that you could probably get away with using less than most over training high volume bro's.
RG
I would keep the training frequency the same though. I have rarely trained more frequently than three days per week on a three way split even while on roids.
There is no diff to gear use while training HIT except that you could probably get away with using less than most over training high volume bro's.
RG
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MohawkMuscle
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I also have always trained on a HIt type program... 1-2 all out sets 2-3 exercises per body part on average.
When I juice I use the same workout.
When I juice I use the same workout.
Lift Chief
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bigmouth said:
It's a good way to train for the average trainee... do a search you will have more to read than you know what to do with.
I used to use H.I.T. methods exclusively, since then I have branched off a bit and came up with my own thing called M.I.T,
Mass intensity Training, If any one would like to check it out it can be found in the training section of my board, the link is in my signature. It is a hardcore split were you have a five day rest between body parts. It incorporates compond movements that are supersetted with streching movements to cause the most hypertrophy possible. I have a couple of the members keeping a training log their as well.
Mass intensity Training, If any one would like to check it out it can be found in the training section of my board, the link is in my signature. It is a hardcore split were you have a five day rest between body parts. It incorporates compond movements that are supersetted with streching movements to cause the most hypertrophy possible. I have a couple of the members keeping a training log their as well.
WanTtoBeDeisel
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Im VERY interested in the HIT type training. the more i read the more i see it is working for a lot of people. i have a question though, when i actually look up the program online, i see that there is only one working set and one exercise per body part... training 3 body parts on one day. now what if i were to go all out on one set, but use 3 exercises per bodypart, training 2 body parts per workout??
ex: chest- incline BP: warm up, 8 reps to failure at 250 lbs
weighted dips: 10 reps to failure with 2 plates
flyes: 8 reps to failure with 60 lb dbs
and then perhaps doing biceps with the same method. you think this would work, or am i getting away from the whole HIT method?
ex: chest- incline BP: warm up, 8 reps to failure at 250 lbs
weighted dips: 10 reps to failure with 2 plates
flyes: 8 reps to failure with 60 lb dbs
and then perhaps doing biceps with the same method. you think this would work, or am i getting away from the whole HIT method?
No not really H.I.T is a set of adaptive training guide lines. It can be changed to meet your needs. This is what I recomend in my M.I.T training system and I think you will like the results a little better. It is a little different than a typical hit system though.
Chest
Decline Bench: This way we can isolate the lower pecs. If you are at home and do not have a decline
bench then flat will serve as an excellent substitute.
Speed of The Rep: This program will focus on slow controlled movements. The tempo will be to move the weight as slowly and controlled as you possibly can and then smoothly down (approximately 4 second on the way down. The only exception will be on the last rep. On this rep I want you to pause at the top for a peak contraction and lower slowly (approximately 6-8 seconds on the negative rep.) My purpose here is to target the maximum amount of muscle fibers as possible.
2 sets total
reps ( 4 - 6 )
Then immediately do a set of dumbbell fly’s
Reps to failure (6-10)
This is commonly referred to as “compound aftershock” That is when you follow a compound movement with a “stretching movement “This method will stimulate a tremendous amount of hypertrophy.
Incline bench ( same thing 2 sets of 4-6 reps) then use compound aftershock with 1 set incline dumbbell fly’s (6- 10) reps
shoulders
We have already pre-fatigued your shoulders through bench presses. We will now brutally target every single fiber that your delts have left in one fail swoop!!!
dumbbell shoulder presses
Choose a light weight that you can easily get 8 repetitions with. Once you accomplish this, without rest pick up a heavier dumbbell and get 8 reps with it. Do 1 set with a weight that you can only lift for (4 – 6) reps. Now here is where the pain begins, when your delts are so pumped with blood that you are begging for mercy! Now do 1 more set of (4-6) reps with the same weight or in till failure.
All the sets are performed without rest!
For the final blow, and to add delt width perform the following:
one double drop set of standing side lateral raises ( 8, 10, 12 )
one single drop set of standing side lateral raises ( 8, 10 or in till failure)
Triceps mass
We are staying with the basics on your triceps. Pure mass exercises!
3 sets behind the back dips for triceps (8-10) reps
Chest
Decline Bench: This way we can isolate the lower pecs. If you are at home and do not have a decline
bench then flat will serve as an excellent substitute.
Speed of The Rep: This program will focus on slow controlled movements. The tempo will be to move the weight as slowly and controlled as you possibly can and then smoothly down (approximately 4 second on the way down. The only exception will be on the last rep. On this rep I want you to pause at the top for a peak contraction and lower slowly (approximately 6-8 seconds on the negative rep.) My purpose here is to target the maximum amount of muscle fibers as possible.
2 sets total
reps ( 4 - 6 )
Then immediately do a set of dumbbell fly’s
Reps to failure (6-10)
This is commonly referred to as “compound aftershock” That is when you follow a compound movement with a “stretching movement “This method will stimulate a tremendous amount of hypertrophy.
Incline bench ( same thing 2 sets of 4-6 reps) then use compound aftershock with 1 set incline dumbbell fly’s (6- 10) reps
shoulders
We have already pre-fatigued your shoulders through bench presses. We will now brutally target every single fiber that your delts have left in one fail swoop!!!
dumbbell shoulder presses
Choose a light weight that you can easily get 8 repetitions with. Once you accomplish this, without rest pick up a heavier dumbbell and get 8 reps with it. Do 1 set with a weight that you can only lift for (4 – 6) reps. Now here is where the pain begins, when your delts are so pumped with blood that you are begging for mercy! Now do 1 more set of (4-6) reps with the same weight or in till failure.
All the sets are performed without rest!
For the final blow, and to add delt width perform the following:
one double drop set of standing side lateral raises ( 8, 10, 12 )
one single drop set of standing side lateral raises ( 8, 10 or in till failure)
Triceps mass
We are staying with the basics on your triceps. Pure mass exercises!
3 sets behind the back dips for triceps (8-10) reps
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MohawkMuscle
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Looks like some POF in there!
Yes there is, I took a close look at alot of different traing systems, and narrowed down a list of each ones strong points towards mass development, Then I came up with a base set of principles as a guide line. Then incorporated the methods that work into the principles I had set. This is the second version of the system.
I posted the entire system in the Elite training forum at this board.
I posted the entire system in the Elite training forum at this board.
WanTtoBeDeisel
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POF?
WanTtoBeDeisel
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now if i follow a HIT type program, should i train like chest shoulder and tris on the same day? Or can i spread them out further? like can i do chest and bis on one days, shoulders and tris on another?
c3bodybuilding
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Wanttobe.. go to the women's board, and read a sticky by Realgains on the proper way to train. His advice is excellent for gear users, and those who are natural. You will grow with that routine! Check it out.
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