Gyno question

[daemon]

I've got a question for those who have been through the surgery. When you got the surgery how bad was your gyno?

I've got some puffy nipples that I attribute to fina. They get pretty sore and have a lump. While they're "noticable" in a tight shirt, they don't stick out to much. I'm going through a bunch of gyno sites I found on google and I'm no where near as extreme as any of the cases they show. All the pictures show actual breasts. I'm no where near that. I'm just wondering if I even need it. They aren't horribly bad but I think the ~$3000 I'd have to spend would be worth the boost in confidence.

Also, everyone on here says that you can't get gyno again once you've had the operation. One of the sites I read, which was written by a doctor, says that it can reoccur. Does anyone have any medical studies clarifying this? Especially in steroid users.

Thanks for the help.

 

[INNOCENT]

ive been doing reading myself.. if im correct... the surgeon must remove all tissue ..then it will not reoccur

but who knows...anything is possible

 

[jubei]

I actually know this for some strange reason. When gyno surgery is performed all of the tissue is not removed. If it were, there would be an indent where the nipple is giving it a concave appearance. There is a myth that once you have gyno surgery you can't get it again. This is untrue. The chance of getting it again may decrease because there is less tissue but I have been on other boards where ppl were discussing the same thing. Several ppl have reported getting gyno even after an opperation. Others claimed that they were cured for life. Hope that helps.

 

[FatFinaHead]

Jubei, I must commend you on this post because for some reason I also know this one and you are correct.

 

[Big Johnson]

BEFORE...

...you have surgery, look into DHT cream.

 

[ceo]

BEFORE...

...you have surgery, look into DHT cream.

and try nolvadex at 20 - 40 mgs (taken in divided doses twice daily) for up to 4 months.

And, jubei is correct...gyno CAN come back after surgery. I've had personal experience there.

 

[cladshirt]

Re

2 months ago I had a lump removed. Maybe the size of a small marble. No problems at all. Got back in the gym within 2 weeks. I waited that long so I wouldn't tear it back open. They only took out the lump. Not all the tissue. Dr. said it could leave a small sunk in area but it didn't. I never took a pain pill and didn't have any bruising. I had taken Accutane for 6 months prior and when I went to the Dr. for the Gyno I didn't dare tell him I had taken steroids so he seemed to think the Accutane could have caused it. So with that as the leading cause it was covered by my insurance. Since then I am 6 weeks into Test cycle of only 250 a week. I wanted to do a easy on my body cycle to see how it would go and I am having good results but I am getting a small lump again....Liquidex will be here any day and I will never do a cycle again without it. So yes Gyno will come back.

 

[Nelson Montana]

It's like liposuction. There's less of a chance of getting the fat back because the cells were removed, but you can always get more fat, or enlarge the fat that is present. With gyno surgery, the lump which is the result of too much estrogen is removed, but if you have another spike in estrogen, you can get another lump.

Some docs will also take out some fat in the area. This reduces the breast size and makes it less likley for more fat accumulation (i.e. the "appearence" of gyno) But these operations tend to be obvious. The pecs appear to be "tucked and folded."

As mentioned, you can try DHT cream, nolvedex, proviron and even Yohimburn to reduce fat, Thiomucase to tighten the skin and Preperation H to shrink the tissues. Fat loss and even inducing sweating can make a big difference, at least cosmetically.

Good luck bro.

 

[startin45]

When gyno surgery is performed all of the tissue is not removed. If it were, there would be an indent where the nipple is giving it a concave appearance.

No, thats if the gland is removed from under the nipple.

 

[daemon]

Thanks for the info guys.

From those who had it, how bad was your gyno?

 

[bbkingpin]

It doesn't really matter how bad it is, because it bothers you enough to want it gone, correct? Most BBs that get it done do not have sagging breasts. Unless it is naturally occurring, most BBs get a small mass and thereafter use preventives, like L-dex and Nolva. Nolva is first and foremost because it blocks the estrogen at the breast tissue. L-dex only reduces the rate of aromatization but does not eliminate it. Without Nolva, you will still have some estrogen that will bind at the breast tissue. So both is ideal but Nolva is preferable. Unless you ignore the onset of gyno and just keep taking the offending steroids without any preventives (anti-es or anti-aromatases), chances are you will never have it as bad as the worst cases (i.e., sagging breasts). If it bothers you now, no matter how "small", do something about it. Unless your surgeon says it is unnecessary based on the severity or lack thereof, why would you not do something about it? Does it bother you or not?

 

[jh1]

Thiomucase to tighten the skin?

Where does one get that?

 

[buffdoc]

ive been doing reading myself.. if im correct... the surgeon must remove all tissue ..then it will not reoccur

but who knows...anything is possible

Unless you've ever been in the OR doing surgical procedures, it's hard to imagine how difficult it can be to distinguish tissue types; often, it tends to blend together, fat and glandular tissue and blood all smerched and melded together.
There's NEVER any guarantee the surgeon will get all the gland. And it only takes a tiny remnant, under the right circumstances, to re-form a big fat gyno mass.