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gyno from prohormone help!

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xxund3adxempirex

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Ok so I did 2 cycles of prohormones with no issues I decided to do a 3rd called swoll 250 I was stupid and believed someone who told me its not strong I don't need anything with it just take a pill a day for 4 weeks we'll week 2 my nipples got really puffy so I stopped taking it and went to the local fitness store the guy gave me erase pro and said that will help me out. 2 weeks in and still puffy but now all of a sudden my nipples burn and I can feel lumps behind them but the lumps aren't sore just weird burning when I'm hot. When I'm cold my chest looks normal but when I'm hot my nipples look horribly puffy and pertruded. I upped the dose of erase I'm taking one every day and 2 every other day and nothing is changing if anything it has gotten worse help me please I don't have a lot of knowledge on this stuff
 
Back when I first started cycling I ran a sust cycle with no AI. I got small limos and puffy nips as well. I used 1 pump of formeron everyday for its entirety which got rid of it.

You can try that or you can run a full pct.

Formeron (black lion labs) or formastanzolol (mrsupps)
DAA
Unleashed
Post cycle
Test infusion.

Or search Need2s gyno reversal. Don't know where he went but I'm pretty sure the threads still around here somewhere.
 
I was also told that I can just drop the erase pro and let my hormones balance themselves out and it should shrink and the nipple swelling should go down on its on after hormone levels are back to normal. Is this true or am I better off trying to take formastanzol to try and battle it?

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xxund3adxempirex said:
I was also told that I can just drop the erase pro and let my hormones balance themselves out and it should shrink and the nipple swelling should go down on its on after hormone levels are back to normal. Is this true or am I better off trying to take formastanzol to try and battle it?

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No once it's there it's not gonna just go away on its on. You need to do something about your hormone levels. Don't just try and let it fix itself.
 
Ok so since erase isn't doing the trick you recommend picking up formastanzol should I drop the erase when I start it or finish my week and a half of erase also? And also how long should I run this stuff since I cut my cycle off at day 14?

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xxund3adxempirex said:
Ok so since erase isn't doing the trick you recommend picking up formastanzol should I drop the erase when I start it or finish my week and a half of erase also? And also how long should I run this stuff since I cut my cycle off at day 14?

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Erase is not meant for on cycle use its meant to be used as a mild Ai in pct. Personally if I were you I would get aromasin from ag guys and run it at 12.5mg ed however you could also get formastanzol and run it at 10 pumps daily
 
Well I have a great article to post and for some reason I cannot link it....will copy past the gyno removal method I've found

Running letro to reverse gyno:
I am going to go over the three different scenarios which people could fit into. Remember regardless of what scenario you are in it is important that you begin taking the letro ASAP.

1. Already using an anti-e aside from letro.
2. Already using letro @ a dose of .25mg or .50mg ED.
3. Not running any estrogen protection.

1.
Day 1: .25mg Letro + anti-e*
Day 2: .50mg Letro
Day 3: 1.0mg Letro
Day 4: 1.5mg Letro
Day 5: 2.0mg Letro
Day 6: 2.5mg Letro **

2.
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro **

3.
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro **

*Regardless of the anti-e you are using it is important to still use it for the first day you begin letro as the letro will not have taken any effect and you by no means want your body to be without any protection when gyno is already prevalent.

** You will remain at this dose until gyno symptoms subside. Once you believe your gyno is gone it is important to stay at this dose for another 4-7 days to ensure all traces are gone. I recommend people with a bf% over 15 stay on for a week as it may be harder to judge completely whether the lump is completely gone. Once this period is over it will be important to taper letro down slowly rather than coming off it completely. Regardless of which manner you tapered up your dose you will all taper down in the same fashion.

Day 1: 2.0mg
Day 2: 1.5mg
Day 3: 1.0mg
Day 4: .50mg***
Day 5: .25mg
***You can remain at this dose or go down further to .25mg. It is really up to you at this point. They are both very common maintenance doses as an anti-e while on cycle. Personally I have stayed with .25mg and never had a problem.

Letro and the estrogen rebound:
With your estrogen being completely inhibited there is a definite estrogen rebound as your body tries to re-stabilize the testosterone/estrogen balance. We can prevent this rebound effect by supplementing further with another AI or SERM. So, I suggest that when you are coming to the end of your cycle you will more than likely be using Nolva in your PCT so just make sure that you begin taking nolva the last day you are going to take your letro and then continue on as you would with regular PCT.

This now leads us into the question of reversing gyno while not on cycle. There are a few things to remember here. You have already waited longer than you should have, and your sex drive will be shot. You can use tribulus or another natural test booster to help you in this scenario but I can’t guarantee the effectiveness. Just follow gyno reversal protocols 2 or 3. When coming off again you must taper and begin using nolvadex to prevent any rebound effect that may occur.

How much nolvadex should you use if you are not going into PCT and running this off cycle? I suggest starting at 20mg ED for a week and then lowering it to 10mg for another week and then coming off completely.
 
Should i try formastanzol or aromasin first? I read some people say letro is the only way but others say stay away from letro it's too harsh. Btw I'm 20 years old if that matters

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Depending on how bad your gyno had gotten. For more sever I'd use letro but for slight puff and mild tenderness you can get away with some formastanzolol. I prefer formeron over formastanzolol. Cheaper, bigger and works just as well if not better IMO.
 
semper03 said:
Back when I first started cycling I ran a sust cycle with no AI. I got small limos and puffy nips as well. I used 1 pump of formeron everyday for its entirety which got rid of it.

You can try that or you can run a full pct.

Formeron (black lion labs) or formastanzolol (mrsupps)
DAA
Unleashed
Post cycle
Test infusion.

Or search Need2s gyno reversal. Don't know where he went but I'm pretty sure the threads still around here somewhere.
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Foremeron is a great product! Using it with my Dbol cycle now :)
 
I just got 75mg/30ml letro and a bottle of formastanzol on the way. I plan to take the letro 2.5mg ED until gyno shrinks then taper down and start the formastanzol at 10 pumps ED till the bottle runs out. Does this sound like a good plan ? Also how do I go about dosing the liquid letro since everywhere I see their talking about letro pills
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Also this is what I was taking. Now I see they are calling the one compound deca but when I look it up people are saying it is not deca because it is not a 19nor they are just calling it deca because of great strength gains from it. Basically I'm trying to figure out of I'm gonna need to run something for prolactin/ progestin or if the letro/forma will do the trick


18-methylestr-4-en-3-one-17b-ol 15mg (DECA)

6a-chloro-androst-4-en-17b-ol-3-one 5mg (Hexadrone)

13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)-diene,17,one 15mg (Max LMG)

2,17a-dimethyl-5a-androsta-1-en-17b-ol-3-one 3mg (Methylstenbolone)

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What's the name of the PH you ran? Also for letro I used 2.5mg eod.

You should be good on the forma dosing but if it's a prolactin problem the letro one forma aren't going to kill it. You will need something like caber or prami for that.

Check out prolactone from black lion labs. It's made for deca/tren users. I love BLL! I get mine from strong supplements dot com
 
The ph I was running is called swoll 250 it's a 4 compound stack. I had no idea what I was doing I just had that mentality "i bought it at the local fitness store so it can't be that bad"

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Letro at 2.5 Mgs per day until it's gone bro ! Letro will also squash prolactin and progesterone regardless of what others say.
 
xxund3adxempirex said:
The ph I was running is called swoll 250 it's a 4 compound stack. I had no idea what I was doing I just had that mentality "i bought it at the local fitness store so it can't be that bad"

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Just curious how you are going with the gyno issues mate, what effect has the letro/forma had for you
 
Letro shrank lumps a little bit and my raloxifene didn't come on time so I had tapered off letro and was just on forma and my lumps got worse now I've been on forma and ralox for almost 6 weeks and dont notice any difference in size or puffiness :/

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xxund3adxempirex said:
Letro shrank lumps a little bit and my raloxifene didn't come on time so I had tapered off letro and was just on forma and my lumps got worse now I've been on forma and ralox for almost 6 weeks and dont notice any difference in size or puffiness :/

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Maybe you should go back and follow that guide I put in this thread....if one of those three methods doesn't help you then you are looking at surgery for removal
 
I did the letro at 2.5mg ED for a month and didn't notice much of a difference at all maybe a tiny bit smaller lumps but nothing to write home about. My joints were so shot and my overall energy was gone and I have a demanding job so I tapered off. I read on a few threads on here and other boards that the safest most successful method was a serm for a prolonged period of time(6 months or longer) should do the trick. Also read the study done on males with gyno and raloxifene at 60mg ED so thats what I've been doing I just saw some people noticing results within weeks but I'm over a month in and no difference. The stuff isn't cheap for 6 months I don't want to waste my money anymore if it's not working

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wow, I had almost painful/sore nipples for a while, just took my first .6mg letro dose today to slowly control it, and 3 hrs later, NO pain at all, does this thing work this well/fast!??! amazing.

I will take .6mg every 3 days
 
letro isnt going to one thing for breast tissue.....it will get rid of all the estrogen in your body but will do jack shit for the breast area.


ralox will be your best SERM for this. start 60mg for 2wks, than drop to 30mg til its gone. If you hit the 6 month mark stop taking it and than blast letro for 10 days.......10 days only.


if 10 days doesnt knock out whats left you have 2 options....live with it.....go under the knife.

use caber while on letro is you still want to keep any sex drive at all.
 
I actually picked up ralox almost 2 months ago and I've been running it at 1mlED abound I cut it in half am I just wasting money?

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Also I read somewhere about having to be in a caloric deficit for them to shrink on ralox any truth to this? I've been cutting the past week after reading this but I really wanted another month on my bulk but losing the bitchtits is more important

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