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There is a post about gyno from epi ? I've ordered several bottles with the understanding that gyno wasn't an issue. I hope this isn't true. The member said they removed the ai form it ? Anyone have input on this ??
Gyno from epi ??
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Stryker1992
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Epi should not cause gyno at all. It has an AI in it and actually reduces the chance of gyno....
Finally the PRO-Anabolic, anti-estrogen we have all been waiting for has arrived! Epistane™, exhibits a strong, long lasting anti-estrogen effect that is organ tissue specific. This means it works only where you want it to work. Broad range estrogen blockers and aromatase inhibitors can result in system shut down, aching joints, and decreased IGF-I expression. Epistane™ binds specifically to the 17ß-estradiol receptor protein in the target tissues. Because of its long lasting and strong effects on specific tissue, Epistane™ can significantly reduce and reverse the effects of gynocomastia because not only does Epistane™ specifically block estrogen in breast tissue but it induces an estrogen-depleted condition which leads to apoptosis or the death of the breast tissue cells. Studies show that small doses of the parent compound, Epitiostanol, at just 10-20mg/week showed a complete disappearance of the mass and pain in 25% of the male patients in the clinical trail, while the other 75% of the patients showed at least a 50% reduction in the mass and complete loss of pain in just 4-8 weeks. That’s results in 100% of the male users with no side effects. While compounds such as Clomid and Nolvadex also block the 17ß-estradiol receptor, they do not elicit the same increase in protein synthesis and strength gains that Epistane™ can offer.
blue_steel74
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I know tht it says it has an AI in it, but i promise you, thats where i got mine. I had never even ran any real gear until last year
skyling35
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I dont believe that epi has an AI in it. I believe It has Ai like effects like other steroids like masteron, proviron etc does due to the fact that it is dht based.
I could be wrong but thats my understanding.
Stryker1992
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What else were you taking with it? Did it occur on cycle or post cycle?
I have/had the same understanding. It has secondary AI effects while primarily being anabolic.
Is that not so?
gymrattmike
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Looks like I opened a can of worms. I just want to make sure what I'm buying and using.
Stryker1992
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Epistane is one of the newest designer steroids on the market today, and it is gaining attention very quickly. Epistane is actually a methylated version of the controlled substance Epitiostanol (2±,3±-Epithio-5±-androstan-17²-ol), which was created in the 1960's and used as a treatment for breast cancer. Since the only place Epitiostanol is only availabe at this time is in japan, chemists added a methyl group to the compund and the final product was a substance now known as Epistane. Epistane is a sulfur containing steroid which is known to have strong and long lasting anti-estrogenic activity as well as weak androgenic and mytropic activities.
What you can expect?
Since it is designed to be anti-estrogenic you can expect very dry gains from this compound. Epistane has low androgenic to anabolic activity. This meaning that it is much more anabolic then androgenic. Thus making sides very minimal to non existant from this substance. Also one of the great properties of this substance is that it does a great job in keeping the natural suppression of the gonads away. Since it has anti-estrogenic properties it keeps your LH levels elevated and it is also said both through science and human trial that epistane may have the ability to reduce gyno. This is still a widely debated outcome of epistane but is actually showing more and more positive results as it becomes more popular. Even though users will see dry gains on epistane it does not mean that it would be any insufficient for a bulking cycle. In fact it would be beneficial because it would generate lean gains. Through research it is reported that most users who have taken this substance have gained anywhere from 5-12 lbs in a 3-5 week cycle. Now in my opinion epistane would be better in a cutting cycle to keep the body dry while preserving and potentially add more lean muscle tissue
Article Source: Information On The Legal Designer Steroid Know As Epistane
What you can expect?
Since it is designed to be anti-estrogenic you can expect very dry gains from this compound. Epistane has low androgenic to anabolic activity. This meaning that it is much more anabolic then androgenic. Thus making sides very minimal to non existant from this substance. Also one of the great properties of this substance is that it does a great job in keeping the natural suppression of the gonads away. Since it has anti-estrogenic properties it keeps your LH levels elevated and it is also said both through science and human trial that epistane may have the ability to reduce gyno. This is still a widely debated outcome of epistane but is actually showing more and more positive results as it becomes more popular. Even though users will see dry gains on epistane it does not mean that it would be any insufficient for a bulking cycle. In fact it would be beneficial because it would generate lean gains. Through research it is reported that most users who have taken this substance have gained anywhere from 5-12 lbs in a 3-5 week cycle. Now in my opinion epistane would be better in a cutting cycle to keep the body dry while preserving and potentially add more lean muscle tissue
Article Source: Information On The Legal Designer Steroid Know As Epistane
Stryker1992
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I guess it depends on what you read but see above. It is significantly touted for its AI properties.....
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ALIN
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Most have no problems but I have heard of a few guys complain about this too.
blue_steel74
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Stryker, i was only running epistane. And it occurred during and after. It started about 5 weeks in. I ran it for 8. I had used it 3 times before and never had this issue. But i read in muscular development that epistane converts to a steroid called Madol, which is a DHT derivitive, after it has been on a shelf for a few months. And this article was written by Patrick Arnold, who definitely knows his stuff, considering he helped create a lot of the steroids we use today
needtogetaas
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http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/g...gens-side-effects-preventing-gyno-720251.html
to completely understand gyno and how it accrues both from natural causes and un natural you need to read my thread from start to end,. The topic your asking about has to do with androgen receptor cross over. It is not conman and most don't even have a clue how to understand it but it happens and often enough for the topic to at least be taken covered by my self.
to completely understand gyno and how it accrues both from natural causes and un natural you need to read my thread from start to end,. The topic your asking about has to do with androgen receptor cross over. It is not conman and most don't even have a clue how to understand it but it happens and often enough for the topic to at least be taken covered by my self.
Stryker1992
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Thanks for the input. I am def going to read up on it. Have you recovered from the gyno??
Stryker1992
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So you all set bro? Forma will def help with estrogen/progesterone management.
blue_steel74
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Actually, i still have it. Im in the process of trying to get rid of it
Stryker1992
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What do you need bro??????
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