a good friend of mine has been lifting (loosly) for about a yr and a half. Hasn't gained a single pound in strenght on any lift. He wont listen to me and sticks to nothing but machines, negatives, etc etc. Anyhow, we will be discussing weight lifting and strength, and he will be like " ya man im up to 170lb bodyweight" You know I do the usuall "ahh man thats a great job". The sad part about it is its not muscle at all. On a related note, whenever we discuss someone and he starts sayhing how they think there tough, or they are pussys, he will act like hes a manly man and can whip em just because he goes to the gym....oh well.lol