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GW being tried for Murder??

heatherrae said:
Then he should be impeached for lying to Congress and submitting false evidence. We don't want to set a precedence of trying presidents for murder for going to war just because the war ends up being unpopular. That would be a really BAD decision.

In your scenario, it seems like he isn't truly held accountable for his actions.

The justification would not be that the war is unpopular. The justification was that he knowingly submitted falsified evidence. BTW, I have no idea if he actually did. It would be for the courts to decide.
 
EnderJE said:
In your scenario, it seems like he isn't truly held accountable for his actions.

The justification would not be that the war is unpopular. The justification was that he knowingly submitted falsified evidence. BTW, I have no idea if he actually did. It would be for the courts to decide.
Being impeached is serious enough, IMO.
 
Won't happen seeing as Tony Blair (arguably) did the same thing and got off Scot free (lying to parliament / the public with regards to false evidence / WMDs in Iraq).
 
gjohnson5 said:
Last I checked Tony Blair was the prime minister of a country other then the one being discussed....
Yeah, but he's saying that he should be impeached too.
 
I think Tony Blair was snowed by GW and felt pressured to join up. I don't think Tony Blair is even 1/10 as culpable as GW
 
gjohnson5 said:
Last I checked Tony Blair was the prime minister of a country other then the one being discussed....

Very perceptive of you.

What I was stating is that it'll be the same outcome for GWB; heads of state in the Western world aren't accountable whether it's taking bribes for peerships, kick backs from conglomerates, or taking nations to war under debatable false pretenses.

EnderJE said:
Yeah, but he's saying that he should be impeached too.

Bingo.
 
heatherrae said:
I think Tony Blair was snowed by GW and felt pressured to join up. I don't think Tony Blair is even 1/10 as culpable as GW

So if I commit an atrocity as a private soldier because my platoon leader, section commander & fellow privates pressured me in to doing so then I'm only a fraction as culpable as them?

Great, I'd be thrilled to have you as my lawyer seeing as you genuinely believe it and thus would give it 100% :)
 
OMG!!!!! The libs bitch about how we could use the Iraq money for other things but yet ar Ok with Congress wasting time on a bullshit accusation of murder. Dont we need to fix healthcare, hunger, the economy...?
 
Stoßtruppe said:
So if I commit an atrocity as a private soldier because my platoon leader, section commander & fellow privates pressured me in to doing so then I'm only a fraction as culpable as them?

Great, I'd be thrilled to have you as my lawyer seeing as you genuinely believe it and thus would give it 100% :)
I'm saying that I think that Tony Blair was fed false intelligence and had a difficult political choice to make. England and the US have backed each other up for ages. He was put in a decision where he couldn't win.

Plus, I'm getting pretty fucking sick of every idiot who disagrees with me about something insulting my ability as a lawyer. I've been a lawyer for nearly 9 years now and am doing quite well. So, fuck off.
 
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