Gurus, what should I stack with test e and deca please?

[Musabz]

Hey guys

I plan on a running a future cycle and thinking of stacking test e or c with some deca and possibly EQ ! I ran test twice on low doses before and both were 300 mg, my first one was test only and the second cycle I ran test prop for 3 months with tren injecting EOD and after 3 months I started cutting down and stacked whatever is left of test prop with winstrol, mastrone, test suspension and anavar ! all at very low doses

I wanna step up my game a little and run test e at 500-750 a week and 400 of deca possibly for 12 weeks ! would you guys recommend those doses ? my diet is in check and I'm on top of my game when training. My goal though is to gain some good amount of mass/size/strength on me and do you recommend adding anything to my cycle and what should my PCT be like ? do you also recommend adding the EQ ? maybe also get some winny and clen to cut ?

I would appreciate all kinds of critiques/inputs/opinions so bring it on guys

My stats are 4 years of serious training
29 years old 5'10 185lbs andaround 11% BF

 

[Zyglamail]

Dude, your 5'10 and a ways from 200lbs yet you really shouldnt be cycling at all let along a big multi compound stack.

If your going to run a cycle at all just keep it simple and run 400mg/wk test or so. make sure you use an AI!!!

 

[Musabz]

Dude, your 5'10 and a ways from 200lbs yet you really shouldnt be cycling at all let along a big multi compound stack.

If your going to run a cycle at all just keep it simple and run 400mg/wk test or so. make sure you use an AI!!!

Well I'm honestly thinking of running the test at 500mg/wk at least and adding 400mg of deca, not necessarily adding any other compounds to the cycle.

 

[bonacris]

I hate deca for someone who is not on trt. It is so hard to recover from.. Have you ever considered NPP.

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[Zyglamail]

Well I'm honestly thinking of running the test at 500mg/wk at least and adding 400mg of deca, not necessarily adding any other compounds to the cycle.

nearly a gram of gear and your not even 200lbs is ridiculous if you ask me.

I realize this isnt what you want to hear, but If you cant break 200 naturally then a gram of gear is going to be wasted on you.

 

[Musabz]

I hate deca for someone who is not on trt. It is so hard to recover from.. Have you ever considered NPP.

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I actually did and was thinking of taking NPP instead of the deca ! I know that NPP acts a lot faster than deca which makes it much better when it comes to recovery ! how much of NPP would you recommend that It would be worth running ?

 

[bonacris]

I actually did and was thinking of taking NPP instead of the deca ! I know that NPP acts a lot faster than deca which makes it much better when it comes to recovery ! how much of NPP would you recommend that It would be worth running ?

500mg test weeks 1-12
400mg NPP 3-12
Have aromasin and caber on hand as well.

Most people would say to finish NPP 2 weeks before test but it's a shorter ester so you'll good. Also I don't recommend a 4 week pct. Mine are 6 weeks minimum. No point doing a 12 week cycle and expecting 4 week pct to keep gains.

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[Musabz]

500mg test weeks 1-12
400mg NPP 3-12
Have aromasin and caber on hand as well.

Most people would say to finish NPP 2 weeks before test but it's a shorter ester so you'll good. Also I don't recommend a 4 week pct. Mine are 6 weeks minimum. No point doing a 12 week cycle and expecting 4 week pct to keep gains.

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I appreciate the response buddy ! one more thing though , how would my PCT go for 6 weeks and clomid or nolva ? and how would I use the aromasin with this cycle ? should it be 12.5mg every 3 days ?

 

[bonacris]

There are many trains of thought on pct.. I don't like serm only PCT's.

Mine is this
Clomid (4weeks)
Hcgenerate
Unleashed
T-force
Aromasin
Caber and possibly Ostarine if you like.

Aromasin I would use 12.5mg eod but it depends how estrogen sensitive you are so it's a personal thing.. caber I use .5mg e3d

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[Musabz]

There are many trains of thought on pct.. I don't like serm only PCT's.

Mine is this
Clomid (4weeks)
Hcgenerate
Unleashed
T-force
Aromasin
Caber and possibly Ostarine if you like.

Aromasin I would use 12.5mg eod but it depends how estrogen sensitive you are so it's a personal thing.. caber I use .5mg e3d

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Thanks ! You are the man bonacris

 

[bonacris]

Thanks ! You are the man bonacris

No problem at all.. hopefully you will love npp as much as I did

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[25homes]

Yea lot of gear for that size

 

[Musabz]

nearly a gram of gear and your not even 200lbs is ridiculous if you ask me.

I realize this isnt what you want to hear, but If you cant break 200 naturally then a gram of gear is going to be wasted on you.

sorry buddy I missed your reply
you are not being clear about the 200lbs breaking point to start gear ! like what bf should I be ? and honestly I've never heard of that before! I get your point but your statement is too general here and where did this rule come from ? a 5'10 200lbs ectomorph is not the same as a 5'10 200lbs mesomorph buddy ! through out 3 years and a half I went from 145lbs scrawny to 175lbs naturally but I busted my ass of working hard for that and I look great right now !

 

[RickRock13]

I appreciate the response buddy ! one more thing though , how would my PCT go for 6 weeks and clomid or nolva ? and how would I use the aromasin with this cycle ? should it be 12.5mg every 3 days ?

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[swole12014]

sorry buddy I missed your reply
you are not being clear about the 200lbs breaking point to start gear ! like what bf should I be ? and honestly I've never heard of that before! I get your point but your statement is too general here and where did this rule come from ? a 5'10 200lbs ectomorph is not the same as a 5'10 200lbs mesomorph buddy ! through out 3 years and a half I went from 145lbs scrawny to 175lbs naturally but I busted my ass of working hard for that and I look great right now !

If you're a true mesomorph, you already have a very low bf% which is a great foundation (btw, I hate you. Lol, jk). Seriously though, I think you're primed for a cycle as a meso; being that you just basically have to eat and workout, if you're looking to stack with those, I would give dbol a try. Don't be scared of bloat and all that because you don't have normal guys' concerns. Do keep your AIs handy though in the event of aromatization.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Well I'm honestly thinking of running the test at 500mg/wk at least and adding 400mg of deca, not necessarily adding any other compounds to the cycle.

You really need more than that? I don;t get these guys who do a ton of gear and think they need to stack more for special results.

 

[Musabz]

You really need more than that? I don;t get these guys who do a ton of gear and think they need to stack more for special results.

How is test e and deca stacking more ? I'm not an idiot buddy. If I'm misinformed or not informed at all or even informed I will always ask questions and get opinions and then use my brain to figure out what works for me. If you went to a professor back in college and you asked him a question about the material and you got a response saying" I don't get those students who try different methods thinking they will get special results or something like did you need to ask that question" how would you feel about it ?

My point is if you are informed and educated about gear you can either help me out and give me some of your advice or just ignore me. The reason why I posted here is to get opinions and inputs from the more experienced.

 

[Nelson Montana]

How is test e and deca stacking more ? I'm not an idiot buddy. If I'm misinformed or not informed at all or even informed I will always ask questions and get opinions and then use my brain to figure out what works for me. If you went to a professor back in college and you asked him a question about the material and you got a response saying" I don't get those students who try different methods thinking they will get special results or something like did you need to ask that question" how would you feel about it ?

My point is if you are informed and educated about gear you can either help me out and give me some of your advice or just ignore me. The reason why I posted here is to get opinions and inputs from the more experienced.

I gave you my opinion. You're not listening.