Gun Enthusiasts...

[FreeballinDC]

You can now strap on an exposed handgun and wear it within the Commonwealth of Virginia without a permit.

It ALMOST makes want to turn in my DC passport, and move to VA.

(free needles in DC are making me stay)

 

[WODIN]

No shit! Wow! LOL @ the free needles.

IF I end up working in DC I'll locate in Mannasses that way I can wear my Glock.

 

[gtrcivic]

Fairfax County just blows.....open carry has been on the book for so many goddamn years....too bad the officers aren't updated on this in the Academy...makes me wonder what the f do they teach in the academy??? how to run radar, profile, stereotype drivers.....

Wash DC is a shithole...you can't protect/defend yourself against the criminals who wantonly carry guns.....go figure that out Mr DC Councilman.....except for the grandfather clause back in the 70's... if you had a gun, you can still own it.. until then..look towards DC Metro's Finest to protect you...yeah right...

 

[FreeballinDC]

Dead serious dude, you can wear your Glock to Starbucks, and nobody bats an eye. Just make sure it's exposed and in plain view.

 

[WODIN]

Dead serious dude, you can wear your Glock to Starbucks, and nobody bats an eye. Just make sure it's exposed and in plain view.

*Does funky dance in front of desk*

Oh yeah...uhn huh.

 

[FreeballinDC]

Fairfax County just blows.....open carry has been on the book for so many goddamn years....too bad the officers aren't updated on this in the Academy...makes me wonder what the f do they teach in the academy??? how to run radar, profile, stereotype drivers.....

Wash DC is a shithole...you can't protect/defend yourself against the criminals who wantonly carry guns.....go figure that out Mr DC Councilman.....except for the grandfather clause back in the 70's... if you had a gun, you can still own it.. until then..look towards DC Metro's Finest to protect you...yeah right...

In your first paragraph, there seems to be some confusion. Check out todays Washington Post online for the story. Evidently some Fairfax cops didn't know it was legal until they checked with the desk.

For your second, I really beg to differ. In the 9 years I have lived in the District, I have only had one incident, and that was somebody broke into my car and boosted my stereo. That's it. No mugging, no shooting, nobody has broken into my house, nothing! Yes, DC has it's problems, but they are nothing now compared to what it was like in the early to mid '90's.

Although I will agree that something could be done to change the gun laws here.

I am beginning to subscribe to the theory that if you are allowed to carry, it could reduce the number of shootings in town.

 

[from zero]

What about concealed carry? You can openly brandish yo piece, but can you carry it in your pocket (provided your pockets can hold said piece)?

 

[FreeballinDC]

What about concealed carry? You can openly brandish yo piece, but can you carry it in your pocket (provided your pockets can hold said piece)?

Nope, that would be a concealed weapon, and you have to have a permit to carry it concealed.

It has to be in the open (hence the strap on holsters), and you don't have to have a permit to carry it that way.

 

[bluepeter]

You guys are all crazy.

 

[FreeballinDC]

Here is a link to the Virginia code describing concealed weapons.

Enjoy

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Yay! 2nd amendment. woo hoo.

 

[digger]

Saw an interesting essay last night. Guy noticed the "Gun Free Zone" signs and the "Child Safe House" signs, and wondered how in the world anyone could think they went together. "Come over here and hide in the corner with me, Timmy, and when the bad man kicks in the door we'll die together"?

The writer went on to say that when he was a boy his dad told him to head for a bar or a gun shop any time he was in trouble -- because the people in those places knew what to do about someone who was trying to hurt a kid.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

How people can argue FOR gun control is beyond me.

 

[bluepeter]

How people can argue FOR gun control is beyond me.

How people can live in a country where they feel the need to walk around with a Glock on their belt to defend themselves is beyond me.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

How people can live in a country where they feel the need to walk around with a Glock on their belt to defend themselves is beyond me.

Unfortunately, it is the least of all evils.

Gun control cannot make guns disappear. What it WILL do, is take the gun out of the hands of a law abiding citizen. This person, as a law-abider, was never a danger anyway, even if they have machine guns. They don't break the law.

However, gun control does not take the gun out of the hands of a criminal, as they disregard the law. Thus, criminals will remain armed to prey on a defenseless population.

Police do all they can, but the majority of criminals are never arrested. So the public needs to be able to defend itself, since there is no way to take the guns out the hands of criminals through government action.

No matter how aggressively the gun control could be enforced, the black market desire for guns would drive the prices sky high, attracting an ever larger criminal element. (This is exactly why the war on drugs is unwinnable; look at what we pour into that without making a DENT. A war on guns would be a comparable boondoggle).


And of course, the other issue: What's the fastest way to impose martial law?

1. disarm the population.
2. impose martial law

Ask the experts: Hitler, Stalin, Saddam: Gun control works!

But evenforgetting that issue for a minute, there is no logical justification of gun control. itis merely another instance of people looking to Big Brother to givethem an illusion of security, like the Drug War and the TSA (airport security).


if there were a way to enact legislation and guns would instantly disappear, I would be all for it. But because there is not, increased gun availability is the only way to protect the rights of law abiding citizens.

 

[gtrcivic]

In your first paragraph, there seems to be some confusion. Check out todays Washington Post online for the story. Evidently some Fairfax cops didn't know it was legal until they checked with the desk.

For your second, I really beg to differ. In the 9 years I have lived in the District, I have only had one incident, and that was somebody broke into my car and boosted my stereo. That's it. No mugging, no shooting, nobody has broken into my house, nothing! Yes, DC has it's problems, but they are nothing now compared to what it was like in the early to mid '90's.

Although I will agree that something could be done to change the gun laws here.

I am beginning to subscribe to the theory that if you are allowed to carry, it could reduce the number of shootings in town.

Sarcasm was used in my first statement... The Starbucks incident was that soccer mom calls 911 on cell and says 2 guys with guns... the 2 got detained for more than an hour....7 cops show up and couldn't get them on any charges.. so asked dispatch/station what to charge them.. well after an hr charged them with possess firearm in local w/150,000 population. Police looked too god damn embarassed to show up 7 strong and have to let the 2 kids go... So wrote them a ticket and took their guns.....Only when VCDL got involved they were allowed to go pick up their guns. and of course the officer berated the students, not apologize....

Well next time i'm sure they'll be a lawsuit for false imprisonment....Thats all you see FFx Police do.. write traffic tickets, tailgate you late at night to make you go faster, outright speed.... and not investigate any real crime (violent crimes)....all locals make $$$ by writing tickets...hell last time i saw them do some real work was when the DC Sniper was around last year... Sure got them to do some real work, but afraid on the job

DC is f'd up beyond belief...that you can't even protect yourself with a firearm if you wanted to....and you can't even vote and you pay taxes....

 

[FreeballinDC]

DC is f'd up beyond belief...that you can't even protect yourself with a firearm if you wanted to....and you can't even vote and you pay taxes....

LOL we are working these issues, it's called statehood, but that's unrealistic, although one or two Republicans have seen fit to introduce legislation to allow representation, as long as other districts within the US were redrawn to allow a balancing of the representation.

Personally, I don't care. It's just nice to know my tax money is going towards lead pipe refittings and not up the mayor's nose.

 

[Fast Twitch Fiber]

Here in hillbilly land (WV) it's perfectly legal to carry a gun holstered in plain view. It's also easy to get a concealed weapon permit. All you have to do is take a safety class and then apply at the state police. If you don't have a criminal record for anything severe you will be approved.

 

[gtrcivic]

or obtain a non resident Florida permit that allows reciprocity to something like 24 states..then a Texas non resident permit allows 15 states (overlap)...

 

[Becoming]

Nope, that would be a concealed weapon, and you have to have a permit to carry it concealed.

It has to be in the open (hence the strap on holsters), and you don't have to have a permit to carry it that way.

same here in AZ..

The writer went on to say that when he was a boy his dad told him to head for a bar or a gun shop any time he was in trouble -- because the people in those places knew what to do about someone who was trying to hurt a kid.

Smart dad...

 

[bluepeter]

Unfortunately, it is the least of all evils.

Gun control cannot make guns disappear. What it WILL do, is take the gun out of the hands of a law abiding citizen. This person, as a law-abider, was never a danger anyway, even if they have machine guns. They don't break the law.

However, gun control does not take the gun out of the hands of a criminal, as they disregard the law. Thus, criminals will remain armed to prey on a defenseless population.

Police do all they can, but the majority of criminals are never arrested. So the public needs to be able to defend itself, since there is no way to take the guns out the hands of criminals through government action.

No matter how aggressively the gun control could be enforced, the black market desire for guns would drive the prices sky high, attracting an ever larger criminal element. (This is exactly why the war on drugs is unwinnable; look at what we pour into that without making a DENT. A war on guns would be a comparable boondoggle).


And of course, the other issue: What's the fastest way to impose martial law?

1. disarm the population.
2. impose martial law

Ask the experts: Hitler, Stalin, Saddam: Gun control works!

But evenforgetting that issue for a minute, there is no logical justification of gun control. itis merely another instance of people looking to Big Brother to givethem an illusion of security, like the Drug War and the TSA (airport security).


if there were a way to enact legislation and guns would instantly disappear, I would be all for it. But because there is not, increased gun availability is the only way to protect the rights of law abiding citizens.

Some good points but I'm not arguing gun control here rob. I'm simply stating that I am very glad I live in Canada where we are not so afraid of being assaulted/robbed/sodomized/murdered that we don't have to wander around with a glock on our hip or have semi-automatic assault weapons to protect our homes.

I thank my parents every day for bearing me in this country where I can live in a city larger and more populous than 95% of American cities and yet with 1/10th the murders and violent crime.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Some good points but I'm not arguing gun control here rob. I'm simply stating that I am very glad I live in Canada where we are not so afraid of being assaulted/robbed/sodomized/murdered that we don't have to wander around with a glock on our hip or have semi-automatic assault weapons to protect our homes.

I thank my parents every day for bearing me in this country where I can live in a city larger and more populous than 95% of American cities and yet with 1/10th the murders and violent crime.

I'm glad you live there too.

 

[bluepeter]

I'm glad you live there too.

lol, penis

 

[manny78]

What was the first thing Fidel Castro did ? Seize every firearm. You know what happened after. Look at that commie faggot Lula in Brazil, he's doing the same shit. Congrats to you guys. Open carry is not that bad. For those in Virginia looking for a way to open carry with class, let me know. I can put you in contact with Lou Alessi directly. he makes the most famous holsters in the world and can make you a custom belt holster in crocodile, shark or whatever you want. Pricey but gives a cool look.

 

[digger]

I can put you in contact with Lou Alessi directly.

Namedropper.

I've screwed around with leatherwork as a hobby and I've got an autographed copy of John Bianchi's autobiography, Blue Steel and Gunleather -- but Alessi? That guy is Da Bomb.

 

[manny78]

Namedropper.

I've screwed around with leatherwork as a hobby and I've got an autographed copy of John Bianchi's autobiography, Blue Steel and Gunleather -- but Alessi? That guy is Da Bomb.

Only problem with Lou is the turnaround, last time I checked it was 2 months but it's worth the waiting.

 

[Buddy_Christ]

i'm not a big fan of open carry. then you've got people that want to be Mr. Badass carrying because everyone can see it and they think they're something special. the only people that you'll see openly carry are the ones that think they have something to prove, IMO, therefore they're going to do it.

Concealed Carry, however, is what i prefer. i don't think PA has an open carry law, but i could care less. i have a conceal carry permit simply because i wanted it and was able to get it without any hassle.

a bonus, IMO, to the PA conceal carry law is that i do not have to unload if i have the gun in the car. to me, it's just a pain in the ass because i like to keep one in the chamber and 10 in the mag. the gun only leaves the house with me anymore if i'm making my weekend trips down to my grandmother's house. never know who could decide to show up while i'm down there....and you may think it's a bad idea, but i'm 100% prepared if need be. believe me, there could arise the need within the next few weeks. i hope not, but if it happens, i'm ready.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

i'm not a big fan of open carry. then you've got people that want to be Mr. Badass carrying because everyone can see it and they think they're something special. the only people that you'll see openly carry are the ones that think they have something to prove, IMO, therefore they're going to do it.

I've seen those people. We call them "police".

 

[curling]

You guys are all crazy.

Your're going to think we are crazy when they(govt) comes from you and all you got is a bat and knife for protection.

 

[bluepeter]

Your're going to think we are crazy when they(govt) comes from you and all you got is a bat and knife for protection.

Are you trying to tell me that my government is going to come to my house to assault me so I need a firearm to protect myself? You guys shoot FBI agents on a regular basis?

or are you referring to someone breaking into my house or trying to assault me?

If it's the former, wow, your ceiling is covered in coat hangers isn't it?

If it's the latter, that's why I live in Canada, so I don't need to carry an assault weapon for fear of my or my family's safety.

 

[manny78]

Are you trying to tell me that my government is going to come to my house to assault me so I need a firearm to protect myself? You guys shoot FBI agents on a regular basis?

or are you referring to someone breaking into my house or trying to assault me?

If it's the former, wow, your ceiling is covered in coat hangers isn't it?

If it's the latter, that's why I live in Canada, so I don't need to carry an assault weapon for fear of my or my family's safety.

Dude please stop it, I'm ashamed of being canadian right now. Lemme guess, you voted liberal right ?

 

[Buddy_Christ]

I've seen those people. We call them "police".

yeah, some of them. like the one that detained me and seized my gun for no reason. i'd love to post the current details, but my attorney has advised not to for the time being. we're coming to a conclusion though. i have been assured, however, that this cop is no longer on the streets and sitting behind a desk.

 

[curling]

Are you trying to tell me that my government is going to come to my house to assault me so I need a firearm to protect myself? You guys shoot FBI agents on a regular basis?

I would if I was innocent and if they were enforcing some commy agenda of the govt.

or are you referring to someone breaking into my house or trying to assault me?

If it's the latter, that's why I live in Canada, so I don't need to carry an assault weapon for fear of my or my family's safety.

So there are no crazy people canada that would break in your house to rape and kill you and wife?

 

[gtrcivic]

Got myself an Alessi Talon Holster...took FOREVER for it to arrive...Police have Godlike complexes..well most of them......don't like you for some reason... can lock you up for disorderly conduct...and really no definition for that either.....

 

[bluepeter]

I would if I was innocent and if they were enforcing some commy agenda of the govt.



So there are no crazy people canada that would break in your house to rape and kill you and wife?

Dude, I live in a city of 5 million+ people and we average around 60 murders a year. How many murders are there in an American city of comparable size? 400? 500?

It's not an overriding fear here like it appears to be in the US.

(that's not to say it doesn't happen, it does everywhere........)

 

[bluepeter]

Dude please stop it, I'm ashamed of being canadian right now. Lemme guess, you voted liberal right ?

Why? Because I don't think people should be allowed (or feel the need to) walk around with a fucking Glock on their hip like militiamen from 1770?

and no, I didn't vote Liberal. I vacillated between Green party and NDP and went with NDP. I'm not voting for a prick that was our Finance minister and yet claims he knew nothing about the sponsorship scandal (that's your job asshole!) or for George Bush jr...........

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

In America we have the right to bear arms. It is in our constitution, we dont care if everyone agrees or not. Crime maybe higher in the States, all the more reason to protect yourself IMO.