Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Just want you guys opinion on which would be better. I'm wanting to add a some size and long lean muscle. I've been workin out for several years and have used gear before. I'm 5'10" and 165lbs. I stopped workin out for about 6 months, being lazy, and i lost 15lbs from not workin out. Now I'm gettin back into it and have the oppertunity to get either or both. Thanks in advanced
Growth vs. Gear
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UA_Iron
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you wont gain much at all if your diet isnt in check
workout first for a long time - you'll see gains the fastest now that you took time off.
If you were only 165 at that height then you were not eating enough, simple as that.
workout first for a long time - you'll see gains the fastest now that you took time off.
If you were only 165 at that height then you were not eating enough, simple as that.
jdevlin1985
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The 2 are in reality quite different 'compounds'. Apart from the fact that GH is far more expensive cost wise opposed to anabolics/androgens it is also administered totally differently to steroids. It is a very powerful hormone and can come with an extensive list of precautions which also should be looked into and taken into consideration if one were to consider using.
I have not enough experience myself to give you an opinion regarding which is the better in the long run but I am on at the mo and it works very well.
GH increases muscle cell size. Steroids cannot, I repeat cannot increase the number of cells in a muscle. GH goes further than genetics.
I have not enough experience myself to give you an opinion regarding which is the better in the long run but I am on at the mo and it works very well.
GH increases muscle cell size. Steroids cannot, I repeat cannot increase the number of cells in a muscle. GH goes further than genetics.
jdevlin1985
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Outtlaw said:
True that. I agree
Jdevlin1985 said:
True. I do need to drink my protein shakes more often. But it's when I don't work out is when I lose the weight. The biggest I've ever been has been 195lbs. But I wasn't solid... Ate too much junk food then...I know, I know...but when you don't have any money (Bachelor) You'll eat whatever anybody cooks you.
...I was thinkin about GH because I've heard a lot about it. Any side affects ya'll know of. I plan on workin out hard for the next 2-3months then takin it.. what do you guys think..
Outtlaw
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Yeah, there are a lot of potential side effects. The amount of gh you need to use for mass gains can put you at risk of becomming a diabetic. No offense, but you need to do a lot more research. Like I said before. Dont waste your money. You'll get better results with normal gear for less than half the price. You dont need gh!! For gods sake, you weigh 165 lbs. I know girls that are bigger than you!bigdawg8 said:True. I do need to drink my protein shakes more often. But it's when I don't work out is when I lose the weight. The biggest I've ever been has been 195lbs. But I wasn't solid... Ate too much junk food then...I know, I know...but when you don't have any money (Bachelor) You'll eat whatever anybody cooks you.
Just out of curiosity, how were you planning on running this proposed cycle of yours??
NYBodyguard
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here is what i would do
get back into 5 day a week training for 6 months
get used to a diet (forget shakes maybe 1 a day) normal food, chicken steak eggs fish etc.
rest
If you can keep up serious for 6 months then do something light but solid
test 400/wk
deca 2-300/wk
maybe some dbol like 15-20mg a day
10 weeks do that then do a pct
But first make sure you can stick with a serious workout/diet/rest routine
get back into 5 day a week training for 6 months
get used to a diet (forget shakes maybe 1 a day) normal food, chicken steak eggs fish etc.
rest
If you can keep up serious for 6 months then do something light but solid
test 400/wk
deca 2-300/wk
maybe some dbol like 15-20mg a day
10 weeks do that then do a pct
But first make sure you can stick with a serious workout/diet/rest routine
Not real sure how i planned to take the GH. But if I used gear I planned a
12 week cycle.
wk 1-6: Sustanon 250
wk 3-9: Deca 300
wk 6-12: Winstrol 50
Maybe one more think like Trembolone or Equipoise.
You guys are far more the experts. I've done a lot of research on gear, but not GH.
12 week cycle.
wk 1-6: Sustanon 250
wk 3-9: Deca 300
wk 6-12: Winstrol 50
Maybe one more think like Trembolone or Equipoise.
You guys are far more the experts. I've done a lot of research on gear, but not GH.
Little Boy
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Outtlaw said:
I don't know much about GH, but what do you mean by putting one at risk for becoming diabetic? Can you shed some more info on this? Thanks.
1 more thing. 1 month ago i only weighed 155lbs. Started eating better and workin out and i gained 10lbs. By July I will be weighing 180-185#'s. My body just does that. Don't work out =lose weight, Bust my ass =weight gained. I'm sure there are girls that weigh more than me, but i don't like fat bitches..........LOL
informed09
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bigdawg8 said:
Not trying to be rude but that is no way to run the gear you mentioned. It takes 3-5 weeks for deca and sust to kick in. You would need to run them both at least 10 weeks. Do more research and ask more questions if your not sure, thats what the board is here for. Good luck
Outtlaw
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Well.... Basically, it does it mostly by increasing insulin resistance. With a high enough insulin resistance you basically become a type II diabetic. Not a problem if the resistance ends and all goes back to normal when you stop the gh. But increased insulin resistance can also cause the pancreas to pump out extra insulin to try and compensate. If this happens for a long enough time, the pancreas can I guess burn out in a sense, causing type I diabetes (which you defenitly dont want if you can avoid).Little Boy said:I don't know much about GH, but what do you mean by putting one at risk for becoming diabetic? Can you shed some more info on this? Thanks.
Again, 3-4iu/day of gh shouldnt have a major impact on insulin resistance. But at the same time 3-4iu/day is not gonna cut it for mass gains. I would suggest to those using gh for mass to cycle it for 12-16wks at a time and use it with slin.
monster2929
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U Are Lost Dude , No Offense But If I Was A Dick I Wouldnt Even Respond, Train For A Year Natural Buy Gear And Forget About Hgh Until A Long Long Long Time, U Will Be Happier With The Gear, And...........test To Deca Ratio Should Always Be 2-1 Bro
Nothing wrong with doing gear at 5'10 and 165. But if you were 195 before I recommend gaining back as much of the muscle you had at your peak, whether it be 180 or whatever, then doing a test only cycle for 12 weeks. You might keep an additional 10 or more from that depending on how you respect.
5'10 and 190 would'nt be too bad at all. Not a mass monster, but in better shape than 99% of the population.
5'10 and 190 would'nt be too bad at all. Not a mass monster, but in better shape than 99% of the population.
Güclü_oglan
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do 250mg of testosterone enanthate e5d or 500mg ew for 10 weeks and you'll be happy with it. But i think you should go natural a little longer
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