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Growth vs. Gear

Outtlaw said:
Yeah, there are a lot of potential side effects. The amount of gh you need to use for mass gains can put you at risk of becomming a diabetic. No offense, but you need to do a lot more research. Like I said before. Dont waste your money. You'll get better results with normal gear for less than half the price. You dont need gh!! For gods sake, you weigh 165 lbs. I know girls that are bigger than you!

Just out of curiosity, how were you planning on running this proposed cycle of yours??

I don't know much about GH, but what do you mean by putting one at risk for becoming diabetic? Can you shed some more info on this? Thanks. :)
 
1 more thing. 1 month ago i only weighed 155lbs. Started eating better and workin out and i gained 10lbs. By July I will be weighing 180-185#'s. My body just does that. Don't work out =lose weight, Bust my ass =weight gained. I'm sure there are girls that weigh more than me, but i don't like fat bitches..........LOL
 
bigdawg8 said:
Not real sure how i planned to take the GH. But if I used gear I planned a
12 week cycle.
wk 1-6: Sustanon 250
wk 3-9: Deca 300
wk 6-12: Winstrol 50

Maybe one more think like Trembolone or Equipoise.
You guys are far more the experts. I've done a lot of research on gear, but not GH.

Not trying to be rude but that is no way to run the gear you mentioned. It takes 3-5 weeks for deca and sust to kick in. You would need to run them both at least 10 weeks. Do more research and ask more questions if your not sure, thats what the board is here for. Good luck
 
Little Boy said:
I don't know much about GH, but what do you mean by putting one at risk for becoming diabetic? Can you shed some more info on this? Thanks. :)
Well.... Basically, it does it mostly by increasing insulin resistance. With a high enough insulin resistance you basically become a type II diabetic. Not a problem if the resistance ends and all goes back to normal when you stop the gh. But increased insulin resistance can also cause the pancreas to pump out extra insulin to try and compensate. If this happens for a long enough time, the pancreas can I guess burn out in a sense, causing type I diabetes (which you defenitly dont want if you can avoid).

Again, 3-4iu/day of gh shouldnt have a major impact on insulin resistance. But at the same time 3-4iu/day is not gonna cut it for mass gains. I would suggest to those using gh for mass to cycle it for 12-16wks at a time and use it with slin.
 
U Are Lost Dude , No Offense But If I Was A Dick I Wouldnt Even Respond, Train For A Year Natural Buy Gear And Forget About Hgh Until A Long Long Long Time, U Will Be Happier With The Gear, And...........test To Deca Ratio Should Always Be 2-1 Bro
 
Nothing wrong with doing gear at 5'10 and 165. But if you were 195 before I recommend gaining back as much of the muscle you had at your peak, whether it be 180 or whatever, then doing a test only cycle for 12 weeks. You might keep an additional 10 or more from that depending on how you respect.

5'10 and 190 would'nt be too bad at all. Not a mass monster, but in better shape than 99% of the population.
 
2 test for every 1 deca. Do you mean if I do 200mg of deca then i should do 400mg of Sust? I have never heard that before. And all of ya'll have made me decide to stick with gear which sounds good to me and my pocket book.$$$$....
 
do 250mg of testosterone enanthate e5d or 500mg ew for 10 weeks and you'll be happy with it. But i think you should go natural a little longer
 
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