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Growth hormone gut question
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stressman13
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plifter said:
I think its just the way some dudes' abs are.
solidspine
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The bulging huge gut guys have now is what is referred to as growth gut, look at Arnold who had about a 33 inch waist, and that was before growth.
Ronnie looks like his gut is 40 inches.
Ronnie looks like his gut is 40 inches.
that bulge is their inside guts pushing out from the HGH. yes some have naturally larger abs which stick out, but when u see a pro that looks fuckin pregnant, that's excessive HGH usage. pro bodybuilders nowadays can't compare to how they looked in arnold's day up to the days of flex, ray and levrone...it all took a turn for the worse when yates, although he was badass, took it over the edge and blew up over 300 and presented a new freak benchmark around 1992, 1993.
c3bodybuilding
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Sadly the first person with 'gh gut' was Lou Ferrigno when he made his come back in 91. He wanted to get back and beyond so quickly, that many old time pro's who knew him, state he was taking 2-3 kits a week. I'm sure for back then that was A LOT. If you watch Stand Tall, sort of like Lou's own Pumping Iron about the first Masters Mr. O, you will see he has a gh gut that could rival Ronnies. 
starskulker
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stressman13 said:
My abs are that way. I have about a 3/4 inch line that runs right down the center between my abs. It's wider towards the top but tapers down towards my lower abs.
Fringe Dweller
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I'm wondering the same thing myself. Is the GH gut strictly from combining HGH with other substances? If I were to strictly use HGH would I run into that problem? I'm much more interested in using HGH to turn back the clock a bit rather than to combine it with anything else.
jochensa
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i kind of disagree/agree with everyone. GH isnt the cause of the space between BB's abs these days. It is the need to fill a gas tank that is only so big with fuel. IE- 10 gallon tank with 15-20 gallons of fuel. The end result over time is that the ab muscles push apart a bit, but can only obtain so much size and width. In most cases these guys with the growth guts dont train abs that much. They get abs thru dieting which works. But leaves the abs suceptable to being pushed apart.
The answer to the equation is overeating or excessive calorie intake. Even when I bumped from 205 to 260 my abs aare a lil more spread aprt. The BB'rs of the goldne age were more functional. Ate clean precontest, and where still able to take a jog on the beach w/o passing out and dying. But didnt gourge themselves just to grow.
The answer to the equation is overeating or excessive calorie intake. Even when I bumped from 205 to 260 my abs aare a lil more spread aprt. The BB'rs of the goldne age were more functional. Ate clean precontest, and where still able to take a jog on the beach w/o passing out and dying. But didnt gourge themselves just to grow.
NYBodyguard
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gh by itself wont do it tons of people take gh alone at a decent amount of iu's and nothing happens to their gut, gh+slin and 10iu's 3xday will do it to ya nicely
if you wanna know if its their abs or not look at their old pics, does ronnies abs look way different now then in 2001? yes so there is your answer.
if you wanna know if its their abs or not look at their old pics, does ronnies abs look way different now then in 2001? yes so there is your answer.
jochensa
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I think you guys missed my point. the GH and all that shit has nothing to do with the gut.........its feeding the growth/slin and so forth.
ex: a toyota corolla gas tank on a semi wouldnt get you very far right. but there is a pretty standard size range of the human stomach (and everything associated with it,digestive tract)
you stuff it with more food, it looks bigger
ex: a toyota corolla gas tank on a semi wouldnt get you very far right. but there is a pretty standard size range of the human stomach (and everything associated with it,digestive tract)
you stuff it with more food, it looks bigger
Cauliflower Ear
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i really think it takes a lot of gh to do this...actually i believe the culpret is the igf1 that has many of its receptors in the intestone and for every iu of growth injected you get about 4-5mcg's of igf1. SO really i think it is the igf1 that is the culpret
but to awnser the previous question. it takes a lot of gh to create that gut. I am on my second 9 month cycle at 4iu ed and not noticed this at all...granted i am young and only have 1 complete 9 monther under my belt...
but i would stop instantly if this became a problem
but to awnser the previous question. it takes a lot of gh to create that gut. I am on my second 9 month cycle at 4iu ed and not noticed this at all...granted i am young and only have 1 complete 9 monther under my belt...
but i would stop instantly if this became a problem
1Mistake2006
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Cauliflower Ear said:
Yep...the IGF-1 is DEFINATELY pushing their intestines out. Most people have many receptor target sites for IGF-1 in their bellies..which SEEM to bind with GH/IGF-1 (the addition of said chemicals) There is no magic number..but I don't think GH guts come from 10ius or under per day...we know that GH increases IGF-1 production so taking both at the same time could make it worse. The problem is that we have to go by what BBrs take, not real scientific studies..I haven't read any studies of people taking 15ius of HGH + 120mcgs of IGF-1 + say, 30ius of slin each day for extended periods of time. Most people can't afford that, but pro BBrs definately can..and DO!! I only know what friends have done and I can say that 4ius of HGH with 50mcgs of IGF-1 had no effect on belly size..'cept for losing BF in abdominal areas!! Would triple that grow your intestines?? Maybe..it certainly is a possibility..The fact that IGF-1 isn't controlled makes its abuse even worse..its fairly cheap and with a few mouse clicks, at your door..Don't get me wrong...I think small amounts of HGH/IGF-1 are "safe" but question much higher doses..
I do agree that such HUGE calorie amounts also has an effect on belly size. Simply put, the human body is not made to be stuffed with 6,7, even 10,000 calories per day!! I think we need to take BB back and away from the craziness we now see. Where will we be in 10 or 20 yrs?? 60yrs old with HUGE bellies waiting for a heart attack or cancer(HGH use)? I guess people can do whatever but personally I play it safe...just my opinions...
J
NYBodyguard
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1Mistake2006 said:Yep...the IGF-1 is DEFINATELY pushing their intestines out. Most people have many receptor target sites for IGF-1 in their bellies..which SEEM to bind with GH/IGF-1 (the addition of said chemicals) There is no magic number..but I don't think GH guts come from 10ius or under per day...we know that GH increases IGF-1 production so taking both at the same time could make it worse. The problem is that we have to go by what BBrs take, not real scientific studies..I haven't read any studies of people taking 15ius of HGH + 120mcgs of IGF-1 + say, 30ius of slin each day for extended periods of time. Most people can't afford that, but pro BBrs definately can..and DO!! I only know what friends have done and I can say that 4ius of HGH with 50mcgs of IGF-1 had no effect on belly size..'cept for losing BF in abdominal areas!! Would triple that grow your intestines?? Maybe..it certainly is a possibility..The fact that IGF-1 isn't controlled makes its abuse even worse..its fairly cheap and with a few mouse clicks, at your door..Don't get me wrong...I think small amounts of HGH/IGF-1 are "safe" but question much higher doses..
I do agree that such HUGE calorie amounts also has an effect on belly size. Simply put, the human body is not made to be stuffed with 6,7, even 10,000 calories per day!! I think we need to take BB back and away from the craziness we now see. Where will we be in 10 or 20 yrs?? 60yrs old with HUGE bellies waiting for a heart attack or cancer(HGH use)? I guess people can do whatever but personally I play it safe...just my opinions...
J
great post, appreciate it
Cauliflower Ear
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thanks for backing me on that one...yeah i really think high dosages and the vast amount of igf-1 receptors in the intestone is the culpret1Mistake2006 said:Yep...the IGF-1 is DEFINATELY pushing their intestines out. Most people have many receptor target sites for IGF-1 in their bellies..which SEEM to bind with GH/IGF-1 (the addition of said chemicals) There is no magic number..but I don't think GH guts come from 10ius or under per day...we know that GH increases IGF-1 production so taking both at the same time could make it worse. The problem is that we have to go by what BBrs take, not real scientific studies..I haven't read any studies of people taking 15ius of HGH + 120mcgs of IGF-1 + say, 30ius of slin each day for extended periods of time. Most people can't afford that, but pro BBrs definately can..and DO!! I only know what friends have done and I can say that 4ius of HGH with 50mcgs of IGF-1 had no effect on belly size..'cept for losing BF in abdominal areas!! Would triple that grow your intestines?? Maybe..it certainly is a possibility..The fact that IGF-1 isn't controlled makes its abuse even worse..its fairly cheap and with a few mouse clicks, at your door..Don't get me wrong...I think small amounts of HGH/IGF-1 are "safe" but question much higher doses..
I do agree that such HUGE calorie amounts also has an effect on belly size. Simply put, the human body is not made to be stuffed with 6,7, even 10,000 calories per day!! I think we need to take BB back and away from the craziness we now see. Where will we be in 10 or 20 yrs?? 60yrs old with HUGE bellies waiting for a heart attack or cancer(HGH use)? I guess people can do whatever but personally I play it safe...just my opinions...
J
very interesting....i think that's why it is recommended not to use IGF for over 20 days without a 30 day break?Cauliflower Ear said:
~Alc
SPOONY LUV
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their is a excellent thread on this here...
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=153038.0
Dusgusted who did King Kamali's diet for a couple shows and sig/brought his stomach down really knows his sh t...And this guy swoody makes some good points that follow what 1mistake on here is saying
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=153038.0
Dusgusted who did King Kamali's diet for a couple shows and sig/brought his stomach down really knows his sh t...And this guy swoody makes some good points that follow what 1mistake on here is saying
