Growth Hormone for Size Gains??

[Catch Wrestler]

I know that GH is good for stripping bodyfat,but what about for actually growing?? Some people claim you can put good size on with it,and yet other people say that it doesn't really help much with size gains.Which school of thought is right and which one is wrong.I'd like to hear people's opinions that have actually tried the stuff.
Thanks.

 

[ironhorse242]

I gues it all depends on the ammount you take. I am finding that 4 i.u. a/d is really stripping the fat off me while holding scale weight. My friend who is all ways ripped said he bumped up to 6 to 8 i.u. a/d and is adding scale weight, but the sides are really bothering him. I plan to stay at 4 i.u. a/d for 6 months and see what happens. I may jack up the test to 1000mg a/w to put on a bit more size. But right now I am holding 240 at 6'00".

So the answer to your question is the more you take the more you can gain if you can deal with the sides.

 

[Catch Wrestler]

Ironhorse,thanks for the answer.What sides is your friend experiencing??

 

[BigCracker]

It's not worth the $$$ in my opinion without using 4 iu's daily, insulin, and a shitload of roids. My friend has been doing short cycles of 10 iu's/day, gh and about 5000 mgs a week for 2 years. He's a hard gainer but had a great base to begin with. He's a lot bigger than he was 2 yrs back and has freaky vascularity-even in his back. He just won his class in the state bb championships. I must say the guy's skull has literally increased in size just as much as the rest of his physique. If you saw a face shot of him then and now he almost looks like a different person-like his ape-ish looking big brother or something?

 

[kbrkbr]

Anyone who says they can get good gains from gh simply doesn't know what they're talking about.

 

[floridalife]

Why is that, it's been proven Gh will put on muscle mass as well as lean you out

 

[BigCracker]

Why is that, it's been proven Gh will put on muscle mass as well as lean you out

Yeah, when combined with AAS. GH by itself doesn't do that much alone-at least not enough to justify the cost for most. However, if $$$ isn't a factor go for it. It's not like it will make you look any worse than you do already. All
I know is that GH will give you decent gains when stacked with the right things. Even then, it's not guaranteed liquid size like many think.

 

[drrman]

i've said it before and i'll say it again, HGH is NOT magic by any means, the shit is VERY VERY mild and can take months to see anything worthwhile.....probably 75% of the people on here could take it and not get anything more than a placebo effect.....i see it as an advanced tool to help change body composition and muscle maturity for those who have many many years of cycling anabolics.........again, for most people its nothing more than a waste of their cash! but it sounds cool to say im taking HGH doesn't it, i think thats the reason most take it, and the mis information they've gotten thinking they will look like ronnie coleman

 

[BigCracker]

it sounds cool to say im taking HGH doesn't it, i think thats the reason most take it, and the mis information they've gotten thinking they will look like ronnie coleman

You mean if Richard Simmons took 2-3 kits he wouldn't look like Lee Priest in a few months? Damn, that's discouraging. Lee Priest's secret for size=KFC-it's the steroids in the tortured chickens that make you grow like a weed.

 

[al420]

I gues it all depends on the ammount you take. I am finding that 4 i.u. a/d is really stripping the fat off me while holding scale weight. My friend who is all ways ripped said he bumped up to 6 to 8 i.u. a/d and is adding scale weight, but the sides are really bothering him. I plan to stay at 4 i.u. a/d for 6 months and see what happens. I may jack up the test to 1000mg a/w to put on a bit more size. But right now I am holding 240 at 6'00".

So the answer to your question is the more you take the more you can gain if you can deal with the sides.

As is the case w/ almost everything in life -

 

[floridalife]

Or it could outstanding effects for those whoa re actually Low in GH, right?

 

[king1]

Growth is meant to be taken over long peroids of time at small dosages.
It can and will enlarge your heart if you abuse it. Also your bone structure is
affected and you may grow longer thicker bones which is as well as your enlarged
heart irriversable damage. Be smart and keep it real. Keep your weight within 10
pounds up or down all year round and you'll look and feel like a million bucks.
I'm 6'2" at 245 pounds and around 13 percent body fat. I have done 4 cycles
over the past 5 years. Just cutting cycles to jump start my mind and body so I can
stay as lean as possible. I have a very slow metabolism.
Make sure you have a strick diet and high protein intake. If you naturally weigh
245 then stay within 10 pounds or so of that weight. If you lose 15 pounds of fat
and gain 15 pounds of lean muscle you're right back at 245 !!!!!!
So keep it real and be smart as possible if you want to look awesome at 40 or 50
years old. Take a hard look at Arnold he looks 80 years old.

 

[marshallmadman]

No he doesn't.

 

[bigmouth2006]

Growth is meant to be taken over long peroids of time at small dosages.
It can and will enlarge your heart if you abuse it. Also your bone structure is
affected and you may grow longer thicker bones which is as well as your enlarged
heart irriversable damage. Be smart and keep it real. Keep your weight within 10
pounds up or down all year round and you'll look and feel like a million bucks.
I'm 6'2" at 245 pounds and around 13 percent body fat. I have done 4 cycles
over the past 5 years. Just cutting cycles to jump start my mind and body so I can
stay as lean as possible. I have a very slow metabolism.
Make sure you have a strick diet and high protein intake. If you naturally weigh
245 then stay within 10 pounds or so of that weight. If you lose 15 pounds of fat
and gain 15 pounds of lean muscle you're right back at 245 !!!!!!
So keep it real and be smart as possible if you want to look awesome at 40 or 50
years old. Take a hard look at Arnold he looks 80 years old.

dude arnold is like 60 and people get old and so will you. but you gave some decent advices

 

[d_o_c_]

Here is my outlook on gh use, if anyone cares. I use it once and awhile to cut when I get the urge.

But here is what most don't think about which I do.

I use it in all of my bulking cycles ( all of them )

The way I see it is that HGH increases recovery time which allows me to work muscles
more often.

If you disagree that is up to you, but I will tell you what. I used to work bodyparts once a week before adding GH. Now I run each muscle through twice a week and get great gains, and my strength is through the roof.

Will you get huge with GH. Hell no. But will some Anabolics you can maximize your gains.

 

[supra5469]

Can you say SYNERGY!

 

[Catch Wrestler]

Thanks for all the answers guys.I'll take it all into account.

 

[BigCracker]

Growth is meant to be taken over long peroids of time at small dosages.
It can and will enlarge your heart if you abuse it. Also your bone structure is
affected and you may grow longer thicker bones which is as well as your enlarged
heart irriversable damage. Be smart and keep it real. Keep your weight within 10
pounds up or down all year round and you'll look and feel like a million bucks.
I'm 6'2" at 245 pounds and around 13 percent body fat. I have done 4 cycles
over the past 5 years. Just cutting cycles to jump start my mind and body so I can
stay as lean as possible. I have a very slow metabolism.
Make sure you have a strick diet and high protein intake. If you naturally weigh
245 then stay within 10 pounds or so of that weight. If you lose 15 pounds of fat
and gain 15 pounds of lean muscle you're right back at 245 !!!!!!
So keep it real and be smart as possible if you want to look awesome at 40 or 50
years old. Take a hard look at Arnold he looks 80 years old.

Yeah, take a look at Ah-nold these days.

http://www.shanghaiist.com/attachments/shang_shamus/Arnold Schwarzenegger.jpg

Sign me up for GH therapy right away!!!

 

[d_o_c_]

Thats not a real pic.

 

[BigCracker]

Thats not a real pic.

hate to break it to ya, but it is. The full pic includes his wife/kids at the beach.


How about in color? Check out those wheels! Pillars of steel!


http://wizbangblog.com/images/2005/arnold_mailbu_beach_may2005-thumb.jpg

His calves(implants) still look sorta big though.

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

Synergy!

 

[d_o_c_]

It has been edited. Many have said this in the past.

 

[c3bodybuilding]

To those laughing at Arnold, I want to know how many Oympia's have you won? Arnold is old and is busy running an entire state. He has also had open heart surgery and shoulder surgery. He has proved all he has to prove with his body. And even when you consider all of that, when it comes time to film a movie, he still pulls it off (look at T3).

 

[Ulter]

Growth is meant to be taken over long peroids of time at small dosages.
It can and will enlarge your heart if you abuse it. Also your bone structure is
affected and you may grow longer thicker bones which is as well as your enlarged
heart irriversable damage.

You're basing this statement on what research?

CW, You can use it to grow but as has been posted you need to use upwards of 8iu/day minimum and the gains are slow without inulin. If you use gh/insulin you have a magic combo.

 

[supra5469]

The biggest gains I've gotten so far from 7weeks of 5iu's/d is my hands and fingers have gotten bigger... I can't pick my nose anymore my finger doesn't fit in my nostril.

 

[ironhorse242]

All I can say is I have been taking 4 i.u. a/d for 4 weeks with test and eq and I am up 12lbs and my waist is getting tighter everyday and I really don't eat that great. My workouts are getting much better as well. I plan on staying on the hgh for 6 months and I will see what happens. Right now I am 6'00" 242. I will see how I am in 6 months. But I have to say I am feeling stiffness in my hands. It is a pain in the balls because I work on computers all day.